I'm new here but i will ask anyway. If someone quote me, will i Recieve a private message that tells me who quote me and in wich topic?
Something like that, Something that tells me who have quote me..
Never heard of a forum doing that before... I think it be annoying to get that many PM's lol
Agree.
Also, I am wholeheartedly against Reputation. It was something that was implemented at the GU (Gaming Universe), and it just became a popularity contest rather than members respecting one another. I really think the rep system is just overall a bad system. At the Hive, my account has Rep. disabled because I don't want to have anything to do with it.
Rep system is a double edged sword. I like the idea of rep, and think there should be some kind of reward for helping members. I dont think it would be abused on these forums to be honest like others... However, we do wish to reach out to none-map makers, aka the players, they obviously wouldn't be able to help... thus they would never get rep..
This is something im sure we will discuss as a team, not really sure what the overall thought will be.
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Here's my suggestions, because I strongly prefer heavily moderated forums:
Probate people who bump their own topics.
Probate people who post the same topic in multiple forums.
Warn people who post topics in the wrong forum and probate after multiple offenses.
Warn/probate people who post completely unintelligible posts. I'm for some leeway since English isn't everyone's first language but if it's so garbled that nobody can understand what the hell you're talking about, it's not useful posting. Similarly one sentence posts where it's impossible to answer because the person was so vague or lazy in asking the question shouldn't be tolerated.
But most of all:
Develop a comprehensive community FAQ with answers to common questions. Once this is in place, warn people who ask questions easily answered by browsing the FAQ, and probate/ban after multiple offenses.
I think more than anything else that would improve the s/n ratio and make these forums quite a bit more useful for everyone. But like I said I strongly prefer heavily moderated forums and I know not everyone shares that point of view.
Oh also, it'd be pretty awesome if there was a "solved" forum that could act a repository for good questions with good answers. Maybe make it so only mods could move existing threads there. Would be a good supplement to a FAQ.
@Molsterr:
I was thinking of a rep system too, but the others raised good points and Im suddenly against it. I think people should and would help because of their good nature, and because they want to. We dont want some silly system that becomes competition or promotes wanting to help. We all help where and when we can, because we want to.
Yeah...Im not really for a rep system.. Too cliche and boring.
Besides, S3rius would have the highest rep...Always...;)
I think we need a better PM notification system. An email sent to you that you received a PM would be good, and also something like a window popping up when you have an unread PM. Right now, the small 1 PM at the top is so discrete that it's often easily missed. I've missed seeing PMs for days because of that.
Develop a comprehensive community FAQ with answers to common questions. Once this is in place, warn people who ask questions easily answered by browsing the FAQ, and probate/ban after multiple offenses.
I've started a very good one that im working on that links to many solved threads. Another mod has posted one thats in the MD forums right now.
As for a "solved" forum, We decided not to do that. We think its better to keep those threads in one place, makes it easier to search (if we moved all solved, then "triggers", "data"...ect would be in one place.) However, we did at one point start adding [solved] to each solved topic, but almost no users were doing it... --
Besides, S3rius would have the highest rep...Always...;)
I duno... I post in those forums as much if not more than him recently =P
But I think we should get a topic going at some point with the mods and get everyone viewpoints, im fine either way. but even if most are for... I dont think it should be high on the list.
I think we need a better PM notification system. An email sent to you that you received a PM would be good, and also something like a window popping up when you have an unread PM. Right now, the small 1 PM at the top is so discrete that it's often easily missed. I've missed seeing PMs for days because of that.
Here's my suggestions, because I strongly prefer heavily moderated forums:
Probate people who bump their own topics.
I think this is fine. But allow a 24 hour bump period for people asking for help. If they bump before the 24 hours is up, they get penalized. A longer period of wait time would be just as fine.
I think 24 hours is a little long. topics get pushed pretty fast on this site... I cant stand when people bumb 30 mins later... or when the topic is on page one. If its on page 2..and been at least 5+ hours. im fine with it.
However, quoted from the rules of the MD sticky
Quote:
If bumping then please delete the bump post unless it brings any new information to the thread.
Edit: Just tested it. Apparently, deleting your bump post does not prevent the thread from going to the top. Awesome. I'll delete my bump posts from now on.
One thing that really annoys me in this forum, is how when you click on a thread, it takes you to the last post in that thread.
Normally when I click on a thread I want and expect it to go to the first post, if I wanted to go to the last post I would click on the last page link next to the main thread link.
I've never seen any other forum behave like this, and it really annoys me.
Suggestion:
1. Make the main link always go to the first post
2. Add a new link called "Last Post" next to the main link that you can click on to go to the last post (many forums do this).
The forum is already split,'people just can't read. There is one for
triggers , data, terrain, and then general for what's let... People just
post there cause they can't for the life of them read. (maybe calling
that forum "misc dev"
Of course. However, this is what most newbie mappers would do. Someone who has only played the editor for a couple of minutes would have no idea of what is trigger, what is data editor, etc. So when they see the word "General" which is the only word they understand, they think it is the right place to post. On the other hand, there are definitely some advanced questions that do not really fall into other categories.
So spliting the General Map Development into two will make sense: one named: Basic Map Editing Questions, for the totally new mappers asking questions like "how can I delete a unit?" or "how can I change my player color"; another named: Advanced Miscenllaneous Map Development Discussion, for questions like "Discussion about a 32 scenarios campaign settings" or whatever questions/discussions that do not really belongs to other catergories, yet is not something trivial. Put the Advanced Misc subforum at last of the list of subforums so that people would have go through other subforums before they reach that Advanced Misc subforum.
One thing that really annoys me in this forum, is how when you click on a thread, it takes you to the last post in that thread.
Normally when I click on a thread I want and expect it to go to the first post, if I wanted to go to the last post I would click on the last page link next to the main thread link.
I've never seen any other forum behave like this, and it really annoys me.
Suggestion: 1. Make the main link always go to the first post 2. Add a new link called "Last Post" next to the main link that you can click on to go to the last post (many forums do this).
This is already in the list. (def something everyone wants =P )
Of course. However, this is what most newbie mappers would do.
But the problem isnt from them, look at the general MD forum, 99% of the posts that dont belong there, even have the word "This trigger" or even talk about spells with the "data editor" if everyone just read and posted in the current forums, the very few newb posts we get in the wrong forum would not be a problem at all. We can easily move those small few posts. However we are getting post after post in the wrong forum... and with the correct system, we have to PM the user and notify them for each thread we move (V has fixed this tho, and we are waiting for approval)
and a small side note, ive suggested that we rename it to "Miscellaneous map development".
Alright, excellent post. I think that our posts need to be much cleaner. For example instead of posting raw links (Example: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/7756-absolute-beginner-tutorial-how-to-place-units-in-other/) Make it a coded link.
Also I want to say that a replay video to youtube converting tool would be sweet. Would love to put a lot of replays on youtube, but don't have the software to convert it ( I use a Mac ). Just my 2 cents, thanks.
1. I remember at some point a possible mentor system being mentioned. Idk what happen to the idea, but i think it would be really help full, especially for the noobs.
2. Make a music/sound equivalent of the artist tavern. I not a very artistic person. So i'll be asking people to help make models and such, but it would be cool to have custom sounds as well.
I'm new here but i will ask anyway. If someone quote me, will i Recieve a private message that tells me who quote me and in wich topic? Something like that, Something that tells me who have quote me..
@Rozu:
Never heard of a forum doing that before... I think it be annoying to get that many PM's lol
Agree.
Also, I am wholeheartedly against Reputation. It was something that was implemented at the GU (Gaming Universe), and it just became a popularity contest rather than members respecting one another. I really think the rep system is just overall a bad system. At the Hive, my account has Rep. disabled because I don't want to have anything to do with it.
@AegisRunestone:
Rep system is a double edged sword. I like the idea of rep, and think there should be some kind of reward for helping members. I dont think it would be abused on these forums to be honest like others... However, we do wish to reach out to none-map makers, aka the players, they obviously wouldn't be able to help... thus they would never get rep..
This is something im sure we will discuss as a team, not really sure what the overall thought will be.
Here's my suggestions, because I strongly prefer heavily moderated forums:
But most of all:
I think more than anything else that would improve the s/n ratio and make these forums quite a bit more useful for everyone. But like I said I strongly prefer heavily moderated forums and I know not everyone shares that point of view.
Oh also, it'd be pretty awesome if there was a "solved" forum that could act a repository for good questions with good answers. Maybe make it so only mods could move existing threads there. Would be a good supplement to a FAQ.
I think we need a better PM notification system. An email sent to you that you received a PM would be good, and also something like a window popping up when you have an unread PM. Right now, the small 1 PM at the top is so discrete that it's often easily missed. I've missed seeing PMs for days because of that.
I've started a very good one that im working on that links to many solved threads. Another mod has posted one thats in the MD forums right now.
As for a "solved" forum, We decided not to do that. We think its better to keep those threads in one place, makes it easier to search (if we moved all solved, then "triggers", "data"...ect would be in one place.) However, we did at one point start adding [solved] to each solved topic, but almost no users were doing it... --
I duno... I post in those forums as much if not more than him recently =P But I think we should get a topic going at some point with the mods and get everyone viewpoints, im fine either way. but even if most are for... I dont think it should be high on the list.
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I think this is fine. But allow a 24 hour bump period for people asking for help. If they bump before the 24 hours is up, they get penalized. A longer period of wait time would be just as fine.
@AegisRunestone:
I think 24 hours is a little long. topics get pushed pretty fast on this site... I cant stand when people bumb 30 mins later... or when the topic is on page one. If its on page 2..and been at least 5+ hours. im fine with it.
However, quoted from the rules of the MD sticky
People dont do that --
Oh. Does deleting the bump post keep the thread on top? If it does, I'm deleting ALL my bump posts from the thread I'm trying to get help from.
[shameless plug]http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/10339-mod-making-and-dependencies/ [/shameless plug] ;)
Edit: Just tested it. Apparently, deleting your bump post does not prevent the thread from going to the top. Awesome. I'll delete my bump posts from now on.
One thing that really annoys me in this forum, is how when you click on a thread, it takes you to the last post in that thread.
Normally when I click on a thread I want and expect it to go to the first post, if I wanted to go to the last post I would click on the last page link next to the main thread link.
I've never seen any other forum behave like this, and it really annoys me.
Suggestion: 1. Make the main link always go to the first post 2. Add a new link called "Last Post" next to the main link that you can click on to go to the last post (many forums do this).
Of course. However, this is what most newbie mappers would do. Someone who has only played the editor for a couple of minutes would have no idea of what is trigger, what is data editor, etc. So when they see the word "General" which is the only word they understand, they think it is the right place to post. On the other hand, there are definitely some advanced questions that do not really fall into other categories.
So spliting the General Map Development into two will make sense: one named: Basic Map Editing Questions, for the totally new mappers asking questions like "how can I delete a unit?" or "how can I change my player color"; another named: Advanced Miscenllaneous Map Development Discussion, for questions like "Discussion about a 32 scenarios campaign settings" or whatever questions/discussions that do not really belongs to other catergories, yet is not something trivial. Put the Advanced Misc subforum at last of the list of subforums so that people would have go through other subforums before they reach that Advanced Misc subforum.
This is already in the list. (def something everyone wants =P )
But the problem isnt from them, look at the general MD forum, 99% of the posts that dont belong there, even have the word "This trigger" or even talk about spells with the "data editor" if everyone just read and posted in the current forums, the very few newb posts we get in the wrong forum would not be a problem at all. We can easily move those small few posts. However we are getting post after post in the wrong forum... and with the correct system, we have to PM the user and notify them for each thread we move (V has fixed this tho, and we are waiting for approval)
and a small side note, ive suggested that we rename it to "Miscellaneous map development".
@Molsterr: Go
Ok, I see. Maybe just rename it to Miscellaneous map development and put it last on the list of Development subforums.....
!! exactly =) [I even suggests the putting it last as well] lol.
Alright, excellent post. I think that our posts need to be much cleaner. For example instead of posting raw links (Example: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/7756-absolute-beginner-tutorial-how-to-place-units-in-other/) Make it a coded link. Also I want to say that a replay video to youtube converting tool would be sweet. Would love to put a lot of replays on youtube, but don't have the software to convert it ( I use a Mac ). Just my 2 cents, thanks.
@nelsencaleb: Go
uhhh you mean like This is the link you posted fyi
Click here to see all the commands You can also use normal BBcode
Also, people use fraps..and other video recording software...there is no converter.
Heres my 2 cents.
1. I remember at some point a possible mentor system being mentioned. Idk what happen to the idea, but i think it would be really help full, especially for the noobs.
2. Make a music/sound equivalent of the artist tavern. I not a very artistic person. So i'll be asking people to help make models and such, but it would be cool to have custom sounds as well.
@gizmachu: Go
... I have no idea what happend to the mentor system.