SC2Mapster

@tordecybombo: Go

Ok I checked the replay and I was still getting terrazine although very slowly. The reason I was thrown off was because I had weapon upgrades and wasnt spending much money to counter the enemy and when I built low value armies I got 0 terrazine. <700 income seemed to give 0 and >700 gave 40-80. My income was only 35 and my weapon upgrades were at 10x times normal damage.Btw this was at 1hr 10 minutes by blizzard clock.

edit: I still got minerals.

It's probably a rounding error, but could also just be a design error.

The higher your income the less terrazine timer increase you get per spawned unit, so the less terrazine income you get. You must have had an income large enough to either cause the increase to be rounded to 0 or the increase became so small you couldn't keep it above 0.

I've noticed by about 45 minutes in bc you stop getting terrazine completely. Is this intentional it seems a bit silly if someone just camps on 4k terrazine for long enough they can build a hero that can't be countered.

Disrupter spawn broodling that survive into the next round. (game breaking exploit)

@Tordecybombo:

Did you really mean 6v6 or did you mean 3v3? If the diagonal distance is say 1.4x as long as the other lanes, could you just set it up so the person who gets the diagonal spot has their units move 1.4x faster? This way the units cover the extra distance in the same amount of time it takes the other players units to get to the middle.

Actually nm that wouldn't work. Once the diagonal opponent dies the extra speed would be weird when the units stop going diagonal once they reach the midpoint.

Also a 6v6 might be cool, but for every additional set of players you add it makes it more likely that games will start off with a dropped or player who leaves. In other words I think a smaller percentage of games would start with a full set of players and even teams.

@tordecybombo: Go

Definitely sounds worth trying out.

Hey my account is stuck so evertime i finish a game is just goes back to a previous score of 33 wins and 20 losses. Is there anyway to reset my account within the game without reinstalling all of starcraft? I assume whatever caused this would be erased with a reset of my score.

my previously mentioned tactic is merely one of the ways you can attempt to win in a 1v2 situation. i'm sorry that you feel that it is one of the worst things you can do. i understand that there are many different approaches to this game, so i will step out of the conversation.

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Quickly dumping your gas into minerals doesn't work against competent teams. To be fair, very little works 1v2 against competent teams, but dumping your money is one of the worst things you can do.

If they play even a little defensively, they will have the money to nuke your gas push. By the time you get the next one they can trade.

@youfailgb Actually, Strilanc is the best. :\

strilanc, no way to overcome that particular 1v2 tactic?

i'm assuming you're a higher rated player and you know the game well enough to beat both of the other 2 players to 3 gas while still having a good portion of your army still alive. use the gas for minerals and win. there's no trading for the first few minutes of each round so you win.

if you think that doesn't work you're wrong. period. it's extremly possible and has gotten me many wins, and i'm sure you've done this yourself plenty of times before. please note that i'm not saying this is a 100% winning tactic, this is merely a tactic that provides winning as a possiblity.

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Because then some teams sacrifice one person on purpose. I've seen it done. They give everything to one player, which is already too strong and not fun, then the other commits suicide for an even bigger advantage.

The importance of the player choosing when to commit suicide, instead of letting it happen, is that it allows them to do it as the lane is being won.

Well then why not allow friendly fire with structures? I don't see why not.

I actually feel like the double bonus is WAY too much of an advantage.

The tactic of not killing the leaver's pylon shouldn't exist. There is no way to "overcome" it. They can throw the same amount of units at you, by trading, but you have less income. There's no "counter" because you can't do anything about it. (There used to be one: you could use a tower to make them commit suicide.)

in my experience, that is the sole reason for dropping.

relogging is just one of the options that works around not dropping for the next game, it is not an addition to doing all of the previous mentioned suggestions. each is its own workaround.

when you mention in a previous post about how when your ally leaves during countdown you dont get +2 inc and gas, but if he leaves after he dies you get double, is that a subtle suggestion at always getting a double bonus?

if he leaves on countdown and you don't get the bonus, as you know you still get the +2 inc and gas once his pylon is gone. if the opponent in that lane chooses to not kill the pylon leading to you not getting the gas and income, that is a 1v2 team tactic they are using that you must overcome, it is not something that needs to be fixed.

@youfailgb

What makes you think dropping is related to how fast you play again? Rejoining battle.net after every game is a bit of an absurd workaround.

Balancing 1v2 is important because it means a single player leaving doesn't ruin the game. This is probably the number 1 thing most popular maps screw up, but battlecraft has it almost right. The main thing it gets wrong is encouraging you to let your ally die. It's funner and you get more points.