im not realy realy happy with it right now i allways want to make stuff better but at same time i want to keep it simple so sometimes i dont really know what to do xD
thanks for the first page btw i wasnt expecting it since this is a really simple map :P
i still need someone to publish it on US and also if someone loves snipers and wants to help everyone is welcome i would love some nice terrainer cause i really didnt spend much time on the terrain..
was playing with some guys a while ago and they gave me idea to penalise teamkills and to add EMP to counter cloak so i added it cause i think it will add more tactic to the game :)
Snipers too me was a fun paced twist on the usual, but it didn't really hold my attention for too long. I really loved how your could in'a sense; hone a few micro skillz with it; namely keen-eye spotting and accuracy clicks. I preferred WC3s rendition of Paint ball though, where the weapons were capable of being dodged, had collision (so they could impact terrain/unintended targets) and a few power ups to keep things going.
It seems kind'a rough to improve much upon the old snipers maps without really just making it a rehash of the new "Bounty Hunters", however. I mean, I'f love to see Snipers SC reborn and evolved, but it's almost stuck in the same rhetoric as Starcraft itself is in; it HAS to use a set game play model; that's what made it great in the first place. Deviate too much from the standard old UMS Snipers game play and that map ceases to be a Snipers map and becomes something else. Kind'a blows. Good to see that this map still maintains it's roots, despite how much I wish it could change into.
Snipers too me was a fun paced twist on the usual, but it didn't really hold my attention for too long. I really loved how your could in'a sense; hone a few micro skillz with it; namely keen-eye spotting and accuracy clicks. I preferred WC3s rendition of Paint ball though, where the weapons were capable of being dodged, had collision (so they could impact terrain/unintended targets) and a few power ups to keep things going. It seems kind'a rough to improve much upon the old snipers maps without really just making it a rehash of the new "Bounty Hunters", however. I mean, I'f love to see Snipers SC reborn and evolved, but it's almost stuck in the same rhetoric as Starcraft itself is in; it HAS to use a set game play model; that's what made it great in the first place. Deviate too much from the standard old UMS Snipers game play and that map ceases to be a Snipers map and becomes something else. Kind'a blows. Good to see that this map still maintains it's roots, despite how much I wish it could change into.
i know what you mean its so hard i kinda like feel i want to add more stuff but i want it to be snipers so it has to be simple.. i think ill try to make this one simple has it can be with lot of micro tactics.. and maybe try to do another version with projectile shots different skills and different kind of snipers i dont really know i would like some help though..
but right now i think this is the way to go everyone just trying the editor and making all sort of maps filled with skills and heroes and sometimes it really doesnt work good cause its just too much and people end up just using same stuff so i think keeping it simple and enjoyable is the way to go
is this capture the flag?
well i think it is too simple and u never showed the cloak...
and i would play in the upper team and hide behinde some thing.
It is boring, and if more then 30% people do that, game become boring.
is this capture the flag? well i think it is too simple and u never showed the cloak... and i would play in the upper team and hide behinde some thing. It is boring, and if more then 30% people do that, game become boring.
u can remake counter strike if u like
add some ability. what about blink? or illusion?
i did cloak.. i did capture the flag.. both teams have camera facing the other teams base so everyone can hide behind trees and stuff same way. when you are hiding uve less line of sight so if other ppl are concentrated they will hit you even if u are behind trees and stuff..
its all about who uses the character better .. who is faster.. who is smarter .. whats the team with more team work think thats fun .. but ye maybe its still too simplebut if you play it with friends its fun
and i was thinking about other abbilities illusion could be nice a little illusion to fool other snipers maybe ill try it to see how it works in game.. i want to try everything ppl suggest but i need help
I managed to get a game with some friends and we did a long play test. All of us have played of war3 Snipers, Paint Ball, Elimination Tournament etc. etc. so it was a pretty high skilled game.
I'll try to just be as straight forward as I can with suggestions and criticism.
Terrain/Vision:
It's very annoying, people on the blue team were complaining alot as it's definitely easier going up than it is going down. I see you tried to rotate the camera/minimap but it doesn't work out very well.
You won't like this but please change the terrain to Left/Right instead of Up/Down it wouldn't actually be that much work. It would be alot more balanced and scrolling sideways is easier as well, the screen is naturally longer horizontally than vertically. Please consider this.
The forced camera on your unit is also irritating, it doesn't work too well in RTS. Letting people scroll around would be better in our opinion. I know you probably want to keep it more like a shooter game, but it would be for the best. Atleast try it out.
Flag
You absolutely must move the flag and spawns away from each other. Spawning invulnerable upon a flag as a guy tries to capture it ruins the game completely. It happened several times, the only times you can take it when they are Alive and Away from their base.
I suggest putting the flag slightly away towards the center, But making those who carry it slowed down slightly, so spawns can still chase them down, even if they have to catch up a bit.
Economy
As you've mentioned you want to keep it as simple as possible, having a few items able to be purchased is always a possibility.
Either only have consumable items with slight benefits OR have permanent ones but you loose them all if you die.
Assuming you consider this, gold could be gained slowly overtime and from kills/scoring of course.
Summary
Please make the map left to right.
Please disable the camera lock.
Pleas separate the Flags and the Spawns.
If you ever want a game with a group message me online anyways. Good luck with your map.
I managed to get a game with some friends and we did a long play test. All of us have played of war3 Snipers, Paint Ball, Elimination Tournament etc. etc. so it was a pretty high skilled game.
I'll try to just be as straight forward as I can with suggestions and criticism.
Terrain/Vision:
It's very annoying, people on the blue team were complaining alot as it's definitely easier going up than it is going down. I see you tried to rotate the camera/minimap but it doesn't work out very well.
You won't like this but please change the terrain to Left/Right instead of Up/Down it wouldn't actually be that much work. It would be alot more balanced and scrolling sideways is easier as well, the screen is naturally longer horizontally than vertically. Please consider this.
The forced camera on your unit is also irritating, it doesn't work too well in RTS. Letting people scroll around would be better in our opinion. I know you probably want to keep it more like a shooter game, but it would be for the best. Atleast try it out.
Flag
You absolutely must move the flag and spawns away from each other. Spawning invulnerable upon a flag as a guy tries to capture it ruins the game completely. It happened several times, the only times you can take it when they are Alive and Away from their base.
I suggest putting the flag slightly away towards the center, But making those who carry it slowed down slightly, so spawns can still chase them down, even if they have to catch up a bit.
Economy
As you've mentioned you want to keep it as simple as possible, having a few items able to be purchased is always a possibility.
Either only have consumable items with slight benefits OR have permanent ones but you loose them all if you die.
Assuming you consider this, gold could be gained slowly overtime and from kills/scoring of course.
Summary
Please make the map left to right.
Please disable the camera lock.
Pleas separate the Flags and the Spawns.
If you ever want a game with a group message me online anyways. Good luck with your map.
thanks man i like your suggestions cause i was thinking on most of them the camera was one of my problems and i was thinking in making the map sideways and with your opinion i really think ill do it :P
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btw i really would like to try projectiles the problem is ive been trying to make them and allways failed if someone wants to help they are welcome xD
As in cast your ability on a unit/point and shoot a projectile towards that point? Dealing damage to unit's upon contact, fading on contact with doodads/walls?
I have a test map with that ability, you could probably easily copy it across if you like.
As in cast your ability on a unit/point and shoot a projectile towards
that point? Dealing damage to unit's upon contact, fading on contact
with doodads/walls?
I have a test map with that ability, you could probably easily copy it
across if you like.
ye smthing like that wanna add me in hotmail or smthing ? ;O
Hello. If you want some help with this I would be willing to help. I can't seem to find the mod in the custom games in Stacraft 2 but I did download the version you had on curse. Its not completely up to date I can tell because of your previous posts. I think this mod has potential. I never played it in SC1 though. I am familiar with the tools in the editor. I wouldn't call me quite an expert but I can do a lot of things. Im more of the data editor and trigger editor kind of guy but I guess I can give the terrian editor a try sense you need one of those. I'll send you a PM of my Starcraft 2 user name and character code.
Thanks,
Cowdog13
Edit: I realized that you are in EU and I'm in US. We may have trouble communicating, I'm not sure how it works. Its probably why I couldn't find the mod in custom games.
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I loved the old sc1 snipers so i made my own snipers map :P i need people to give suggestions and i need help to test it.
I want to keep it as simple as possible but with fair and skilled gameplay
Video (this was the first game with more than 1v1 lol after this i went to fix some stuff already :p like the shooting):
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cmonn i need help xP
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im not realy realy happy with it right now i allways want to make stuff better but at same time i want to keep it simple so sometimes i dont really know what to do xD
thanks for the first page btw i wasnt expecting it since this is a really simple map :P
i still need someone to publish it on US and also if someone loves snipers and wants to help everyone is welcome i would love some nice terrainer cause i really didnt spend much time on the terrain..
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OMG i useed to love this game
was playing with some guys a while ago and they gave me idea to penalise teamkills and to add EMP to counter cloak so i added it cause i think it will add more tactic to the game :)
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Snipers too me was a fun paced twist on the usual, but it didn't really hold my attention for too long. I really loved how your could in'a sense; hone a few micro skillz with it; namely keen-eye spotting and accuracy clicks. I preferred WC3s rendition of Paint ball though, where the weapons were capable of being dodged, had collision (so they could impact terrain/unintended targets) and a few power ups to keep things going. It seems kind'a rough to improve much upon the old snipers maps without really just making it a rehash of the new "Bounty Hunters", however. I mean, I'f love to see Snipers SC reborn and evolved, but it's almost stuck in the same rhetoric as Starcraft itself is in; it HAS to use a set game play model; that's what made it great in the first place. Deviate too much from the standard old UMS Snipers game play and that map ceases to be a Snipers map and becomes something else. Kind'a blows. Good to see that this map still maintains it's roots, despite how much I wish it could change into.
i know what you mean its so hard i kinda like feel i want to add more stuff but i want it to be snipers so it has to be simple.. i think ill try to make this one simple has it can be with lot of micro tactics.. and maybe try to do another version with projectile shots different skills and different kind of snipers i dont really know i would like some help though..
but right now i think this is the way to go everyone just trying the editor and making all sort of maps filled with skills and heroes and sometimes it really doesnt work good cause its just too much and people end up just using same stuff so i think keeping it simple and enjoyable is the way to go
Want me to make you a loading screen mate, or a logo or something?
Perhaps experiment with things such as line of sight blockers to make the gameplay more interesting?
is this capture the flag? well i think it is too simple and u never showed the cloak... and i would play in the upper team and hide behinde some thing. It is boring, and if more then 30% people do that, game become boring.
u can remake counter strike if u like
add some ability. what about blink? or illusion?
sure man everyone can help :P
i did cloak.. i did capture the flag.. both teams have camera facing the other teams base so everyone can hide behind trees and stuff same way. when you are hiding uve less line of sight so if other ppl are concentrated they will hit you even if u are behind trees and stuff..
its all about who uses the character better .. who is faster.. who is smarter .. whats the team with more team work think thats fun .. but ye maybe its still too simplebut if you play it with friends its fun
and i was thinking about other abbilities illusion could be nice a little illusion to fool other snipers maybe ill try it to see how it works in game.. i want to try everything ppl suggest but i need help
added a team choose menu in game
I managed to get a game with some friends and we did a long play test. All of us have played of war3 Snipers, Paint Ball, Elimination Tournament etc. etc. so it was a pretty high skilled game.
I'll try to just be as straight forward as I can with suggestions and criticism.
Terrain/Vision:
It's very annoying, people on the blue team were complaining alot as it's definitely easier going up than it is going down. I see you tried to rotate the camera/minimap but it doesn't work out very well.
You won't like this but please change the terrain to Left/Right instead of Up/Down it wouldn't actually be that much work. It would be alot more balanced and scrolling sideways is easier as well, the screen is naturally longer horizontally than vertically. Please consider this.
The forced camera on your unit is also irritating, it doesn't work too well in RTS. Letting people scroll around would be better in our opinion. I know you probably want to keep it more like a shooter game, but it would be for the best. Atleast try it out.
Flag
You absolutely must move the flag and spawns away from each other. Spawning invulnerable upon a flag as a guy tries to capture it ruins the game completely. It happened several times, the only times you can take it when they are Alive and Away from their base.
I suggest putting the flag slightly away towards the center, But making those who carry it slowed down slightly, so spawns can still chase them down, even if they have to catch up a bit.
Economy
As you've mentioned you want to keep it as simple as possible, having a few items able to be purchased is always a possibility.
Either only have consumable items with slight benefits OR have permanent ones but you loose them all if you die.
Assuming you consider this, gold could be gained slowly overtime and from kills/scoring of course.
Summary
If you ever want a game with a group message me online anyways. Good luck with your map.
thanks man i like your suggestions cause i was thinking on most of them the camera was one of my problems and i was thinking in making the map sideways and with your opinion i really think ill do it :P
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btw i really would like to try projectiles the problem is ive been trying to make them and allways failed if someone wants to help they are welcome xD
As in cast your ability on a unit/point and shoot a projectile towards that point? Dealing damage to unit's upon contact, fading on contact with doodads/walls?
I have a test map with that ability, you could probably easily copy it across if you like.
ye smthing like that wanna add me in hotmail or smthing ? ;O
k already changed the map the spawn the speed and the speed when you get flag and also ppl can turn off the camera follow :)
Hello. If you want some help with this I would be willing to help. I can't seem to find the mod in the custom games in Stacraft 2 but I did download the version you had on curse. Its not completely up to date I can tell because of your previous posts. I think this mod has potential. I never played it in SC1 though. I am familiar with the tools in the editor. I wouldn't call me quite an expert but I can do a lot of things. Im more of the data editor and trigger editor kind of guy but I guess I can give the terrian editor a try sense you need one of those. I'll send you a PM of my Starcraft 2 user name and character code.
Thanks, Cowdog13
Edit: I realized that you are in EU and I'm in US. We may have trouble communicating, I'm not sure how it works. Its probably why I couldn't find the mod in custom games.