Why are they considered to be bad...? They might not have the same hang of the english language that we have, but that's just because they didn't have proper education...? It's not their fault at all, is it?
There were small tribes thousands years ago. And they've been fighting all the time. And ppl from one tribe thought ppl from another tribe are dicks. But the only difference between them were 10 kilometers distance from one village to another. Then there were fiefs and kingdoms. And ppl liked ppl of their kingdom, but hated ppl from another kingdom in a distance like 100 kilometers. Then there were countries. Then empires.
England and France have been fighting for centuries, then they were allies vs Germany. And it's the global history trend. Territories of "these people are ok" were growing, and were growing hate distances. Now countries merge into unions, like European Union.
The last fight was between USA an USSR - those were two sides of the world. And now fight is over. It wasn't even a fight, just a hard competition. The last boundary between huge halfs of the world has fallen. There are still countries present, and some countries hate their neighbors, but soon, maybe in one or two centuries, or even sooner, there will be one united Earth, and no "bad" ppl will present. We will hate aliens maybe.
So yeah, russians aren't bad anymore, because there is no cold war related propaganda which would convince that they are.
Hey Neon, I'm also russian. And for me, there is exactly no trouble using english.
Also, this band is ukrainian, and they have a bit different native language. Exactly native language determines your future speaking abilities, because certain languages use different sounds, which "sets" our throats to speak exactly it.
I think you just ran into a specific group of people that has problems with english pronunciation/grammatic.
P.S. I didn't watch the video, maybe missed the topic of the discussion :D no aggresion intended ;) I'll write a normal reply later :D
There were small tribes thousands years ago. And they've been fighting all the time. And ppl from one tribe thought ppl from another tribe are dicks. But the only difference between them were 10 kilometers distance from one village to another. Then there were fiefs and kingdoms. And ppl liked ppl of their kingdom, but hated ppl from another kingdom in a distance like 100 kilometers. Then there were countries. Then empires.
England and France have been fighting for centuries, then they were allies vs Germany. And it's the global history trend. Territories of "these people are ok" were growing, and were growing hate distances. Now countries merge into unions, like European Union.
I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make, but Europe has always been as divided as Russia. Heck, one could even claim that Russia became unified a whole lot earlier than France and England.
OP seems odd; was it just an excuse to post this video?
I'd say it's the general perception in gaming communities that russian are (in some cases) pure bullshit to talk to, both because of their extremely bad english and because they generally have a bad attitude (IMO). Of course I'm generalizing something that I have no knowledge about whatsoever, and I do know that many russians are good at the english language, but it seems that those that are not are desperatly lost, especially in the worldwide internet communities where English is almost required.
- Are there different regions in Russia and Ukraine that does not and have different methods of teaching english, or are Russian people just trolling?
I'd say it's the general perception in gaming communities that russian
are (in some cases) pure bullshit to talk to, both because of their
extremely bad english and because they generally have a bad attitude
(IMO).
Actually, I agree. Russians know english a bit worse, than europeans. And maybe they are a bit more rough, than europeans. Especially those who are younger then 16.
But I have a hypothesis. The greater proportion of representatives of a country on a server, the more other people don't like these people. Because they meet them more frequently.
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Why are they considered to be bad...? They might not have the same hang of the english language that we have, but that's just because they didn't have proper education...? It's not their fault at all, is it?
They aren't that bad either way though
I am from Russia, need more? :D
http://www.youtube.com/user/RussianMapster
There were small tribes thousands years ago. And they've been fighting all the time. And ppl from one tribe thought ppl from another tribe are dicks. But the only difference between them were 10 kilometers distance from one village to another. Then there were fiefs and kingdoms. And ppl liked ppl of their kingdom, but hated ppl from another kingdom in a distance like 100 kilometers. Then there were countries. Then empires.
England and France have been fighting for centuries, then they were allies vs Germany. And it's the global history trend. Territories of "these people are ok" were growing, and were growing hate distances. Now countries merge into unions, like European Union.
The last fight was between USA an USSR - those were two sides of the world. And now fight is over. It wasn't even a fight, just a hard competition. The last boundary between huge halfs of the world has fallen. There are still countries present, and some countries hate their neighbors, but soon, maybe in one or two centuries, or even sooner, there will be one united Earth, and no "bad" ppl will present. We will hate aliens maybe.
So yeah, russians aren't bad anymore, because there is no cold war related propaganda which would convince that they are.
Hey Neon, I'm also russian. And for me, there is exactly no trouble using english. Also, this band is ukrainian, and they have a bit different native language. Exactly native language determines your future speaking abilities, because certain languages use different sounds, which "sets" our throats to speak exactly it. I think you just ran into a specific group of people that has problems with english pronunciation/grammatic.
P.S. I didn't watch the video, maybe missed the topic of the discussion :D no aggresion intended ;) I'll write a normal reply later :D
I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make, but Europe has always been as divided as Russia. Heck, one could even claim that Russia became unified a whole lot earlier than France and England.
OP seems odd; was it just an excuse to post this video?
I'd say it's the general perception in gaming communities that russian are (in some cases) pure bullshit to talk to, both because of their extremely bad english and because they generally have a bad attitude (IMO). Of course I'm generalizing something that I have no knowledge about whatsoever, and I do know that many russians are good at the english language, but it seems that those that are not are desperatly lost, especially in the worldwide internet communities where English is almost required.
- Are there different regions in Russia and Ukraine that does not and have different methods of teaching english, or are Russian people just trolling?
No, I'm trying to find an explanation to why the Russian are hated on the internet.
Actually, I agree. Russians know english a bit worse, than europeans. And maybe they are a bit more rough, than europeans. Especially those who are younger then 16.
But I have a hypothesis. The greater proportion of representatives of a country on a server, the more other people don't like these people. Because they meet them more frequently.