WELL 2-6 water cures!!! It's not JUST 6!!! If the dragon gave him 1 or ocean water, there are no effects. He HAS to take the well 1 water first because he doesn't know if he is cured yet! Therefore, he takes well 1 water to make sure. (If he was cured, then he is now poisoned, if he wasn't cured then, there's no effect) He then takes from well 2-5 water to cure himself.
Let's have an example:
You probably know of Curare, a very deadly neurotixin. It stops the acetylcholin in your body to work, which - in short - kills you.
An antidote for this is neostigmin, which is also extremely deadly on it's own. It kills you by increasing the acetylcholin level.
In short: One kills you by draining you of something, one kills you by producing too much. They even each other out.
No actually I never heard of either of those. I'm not a poison expert nor did I claim to be one. However in general i've never heard of poisoning someone with just plain poison to cure them. And I'm not saying it's impossible but i'm sure its not as common as you make it sound... But what I meant was that it's like saying you take poison ivy and cure it with more poison ivy.
If they can drink poisoned well water before the duel, the dragon always lives since he can drink well 5, drink anything the knight gives him and then drink well 6. The dragon doesn't know what the knight drank before the duel though, so there's no way to decide with certainty what drink the dragon should serve the knight.
If they can't drink poisoned well water before the duel, then the knight will always die from well 6 and the dragon's fate is undetermined.
No actually I never heard of either of those. I'm not a poison expert nor did I claim to be one. However in general i've never heard of poisoning someone with just plain poison to cure them. And I'm not saying it's impossible but i'm sure its not as common as you make it sound... But what I meant was that it's like saying you take poison ivy and cure it with more poison ivy.
Atropine toxicity is treated with physostigmine. Physostignmine is administered until symptoms of physostigmine toxicity start to show. If too much is given, it in turn is treated with atropine.
Atropine blocks acetycholine receptors, resulting in less acetylcholine activating its receptor. Deadly in large amounts. Physostigmine blocks acetylcholinesterase: an enzyme which destroys acetylcholine, resulting in too much acetylcholine activating its receptor. Deadly in large quantities. The effects are polar opposites, even when the intial intoxication is very large.
This is a classic textbook example though, it doesn't quite work this way for most things (but surprisingly a large amount of everyday toxins are cholinesterase inhibitors. But don't try this experiment at home!).
Yeah classic textbook... Not everyone is a doctor or reads medical books. -I don't hear every day about how people are cured by "poison" specifically the word poison, therefore it's not as common as it sounds. And if we're talking about Knights & Dragons I really doubt they have the medical technology we have now to know how to cure specific poisons. Therefore were talking about magical poisons, like wow it was just an example of how the riddle had no specific detail guideline. It could be poison that last 2 seconds and kills before they can reach another well. That's really my point and no I don't care for a list of real life poisons that cure other poisons.
the dragon drinks from well 5 before the duel, and from well 6 after the duel.
the knight his live depends on the fact if he can combine the water he gets from the dragon with spare water he carries around.
if he can then he also lives. (drinks well 1 water before the duel, combines well 2 water with dragon's water, drinks that and is cured)
DUDE, YOU HAVE THE KNIGHT WRONG!
WELL 2-6 water cures!!! It's not JUST 6!!!
I know that.
But already poisoned before the duel with #1 + clean water from the dragon = he dies from poisoning himself before the duel.
It was never specified in the story that they drink more than twice before dying from the poison effects, so... Dragon lives anyway, knight might die.
It was never specified either that they can know if they drunk poison or clean water, so they can't tell if they are still poisoned or not. Knight is in deep shit.
If the dragon knows the knight will poison himself to be sure to counter any poison from the duel, the only thing the dragon has to do is to bring clean water.
The solution assuming the dragon will bring #6 and the knight will bring clean water is not the end of the story, it doesn't think further than one move in advance of each other's opponent. It's like playing chess, you can't win just by anticipating what your opponent will do next turn, you need to think ahead of it. So the story is either incomplete (about the delay you have when poisoned), or impossible to solve 100% (too many possibilities and odds), or the answer is "dragon lives and knight dies" (the only conclusion I can think of).
I don't see how the dragon could die, or the knight.
There is no SPOILER tag. Blah.
Let's see.
DRAGON :
Before the duel, the dragon drinks from well 5. After the duel, he drinks from well 6.
The knight can give :
Water from well 1-5
Plain water
If the knight gives water from well 1-5, this will have not effect on the dragon : he is still poisoned by well 5. He then drinks from well 6 and is cured.
If the knight gives plain water, the dragon is still poisoned by well 5. He then drinks from well 6 and is cured.
The dragon always lives.
KNIGHT :
Before the duel, the knight drinks from well 1. After the duel, he drinks from well 1, then from well 5.
The dragon can give :
Water from well 1
Water from well 2-6
Plain water.
If the dragon gives water from well 1, this will have no effect on the knight. He is still poisoned. He then drinks from well 1 (still poisoned by 1) and then from well 5 : he is cured.
If the dragon gives water from well 2-6, this will cure the knight from well 1. He is cured. He poisons himself with well 1, but cures himself with well 5. He is cured.
If the dragon gives plain water, the knight is poisoned by well 1. He then drinks from well 1 and is still poisoned by 1. Then, he drinks from well 5 : he is cured.
No matter what, both the dragon and the knight live. They then decide that this duel was stupid, and live happily together. When the knight finally dies of old age, the dragon decides to suicide to follow his friend to the realm of the dead. He drinks from the well 6, and dies.
Not looked at the thread replys yet, wanna answer on my own ;)
The knight drinks a glass of water from well 1 before the duel, expecting the dragon to give him water from well 6. The dragon takes a glass of water from well 6 and gives it to the knight, thinking that because there is nothing higher than well 6, the knight will have to die. The knight however brings a glass from well 5. The dragon dies and the knight lives because the dragon gave the knight the antidote.
Now to read the thread to see if i'm correct :D. Also, i'm assuming that they don't then go and drink water before they die. If they do, they both survive because the dragon can neutralise all water by drinking from well 6.
Here's what I think happened: The knight drinks well 1 water before the duel, expecting the dragon to poison him. Then, after the duel, the knight drinks well 1 water again, followed by well 2 (or 3, 4, or 5, doesn't matter). It then doesn't matter what the dragon gave him. If the dragon gave him 2-6, then the knight got poisoned and cured twice. If the dragon gave him 1 or unpoisoned water, then the knight was simply poisoned repeatedly with 1 (which has no cumulative effect) and then cured himself with well 2 that he drank afterward.
The dragon, however, expected the knight to try to poison him. So after the duel the dragon went and drank from well 6 (which cures everything) but because the knight just gave him unpoisoned water he died.
Well, there are ways that the dragon could also survive, but the point is that the knight had a 100% chance while the dragon didn't.
The dragon always survive, whatever happens:
Poison #5 before the duel + any poison during the duel + poison #6 after the duel = safe
Poison #5 before the duel + clean water during the duel + poison #6 after the duel = safe
Unless the dragon is too stupid to think of that. He's arrogant because, well, he's a dragon. And he thinks he has an advantage because he's the only one with access to well 6.
the Knight cant get to WELL 6 ( like posted in the first post ) i guess cause its to high .
so all the dragon has to do is give him water from well 5 and the knight is dead!!! BAM
NOW! obviously we want the dragon to live , so how did he do it??
he drank water from well 6 cause it higher then ANY other well the knight could of reached.
You should read some of the posts on the last page. Yours is wrong :) It only looks like the dragon has an advantage, but in actuality - with the right strategy - no one can kill the other one.
if both the dragon and the knight are smart they will do what Jossak said earlier and both will survive. If they are stupid, then anything can happen. So I think the riddle is solved
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DUDE, YOU HAVE THE KNIGHT WRONG!
WELL 2-6 water cures!!! It's not JUST 6!!! If the dragon gave him 1 or ocean water, there are no effects. He HAS to take the well 1 water first because he doesn't know if he is cured yet! Therefore, he takes well 1 water to make sure. (If he was cured, then he is now poisoned, if he wasn't cured then, there's no effect) He then takes from well 2-5 water to cure himself.
END OF STORY!
Whatever dragon gets he can go and drink water 5, and then 6... Whatever he gets, pure water or 1-5...
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my brain is bleeding please stop lol
here is my idea,
My ghost nukes the island and it sinks into the ocean
now we can stop thinking about this
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The knight can't get to well #6, right? So the worst he could do was get well 5 water for the dragon. Hint to anybody who reads it.
No actually I never heard of either of those. I'm not a poison expert nor did I claim to be one. However in general i've never heard of poisoning someone with just plain poison to cure them. And I'm not saying it's impossible but i'm sure its not as common as you make it sound... But what I meant was that it's like saying you take poison ivy and cure it with more poison ivy.
If they can drink poisoned well water before the duel, the dragon always lives since he can drink well 5, drink anything the knight gives him and then drink well 6. The dragon doesn't know what the knight drank before the duel though, so there's no way to decide with certainty what drink the dragon should serve the knight.
If they can't drink poisoned well water before the duel, then the knight will always die from well 6 and the dragon's fate is undetermined.
Atropine toxicity is treated with physostigmine. Physostignmine is administered until symptoms of physostigmine toxicity start to show. If too much is given, it in turn is treated with atropine.
Atropine blocks acetycholine receptors, resulting in less acetylcholine activating its receptor. Deadly in large amounts. Physostigmine blocks acetylcholinesterase: an enzyme which destroys acetylcholine, resulting in too much acetylcholine activating its receptor. Deadly in large quantities. The effects are polar opposites, even when the intial intoxication is very large.
This is a classic textbook example though, it doesn't quite work this way for most things (but surprisingly a large amount of everyday toxins are cholinesterase inhibitors. But don't try this experiment at home!).
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Yeah classic textbook... Not everyone is a doctor or reads medical books. -I don't hear every day about how people are cured by "poison" specifically the word poison, therefore it's not as common as it sounds. And if we're talking about Knights & Dragons I really doubt they have the medical technology we have now to know how to cure specific poisons. Therefore were talking about magical poisons, like wow it was just an example of how the riddle had no specific detail guideline. It could be poison that last 2 seconds and kills before they can reach another well. That's really my point and no I don't care for a list of real life poisons that cure other poisons.
The dragon always lives.
the dragon drinks from well 5 before the duel, and from well 6 after the duel.
the knight his live depends on the fact if he can combine the water he gets from the dragon with spare water he carries around.
if he can then he also lives. (drinks well 1 water before the duel, combines well 2 water with dragon's water, drinks that and is cured)
I know that.
But already poisoned before the duel with #1 + clean water from the dragon = he dies from poisoning himself before the duel.
It was never specified in the story that they drink more than twice before dying from the poison effects, so... Dragon lives anyway, knight might die.
It was never specified either that they can know if they drunk poison or clean water, so they can't tell if they are still poisoned or not. Knight is in deep shit.
If the dragon knows the knight will poison himself to be sure to counter any poison from the duel, the only thing the dragon has to do is to bring clean water.
The solution assuming the dragon will bring #6 and the knight will bring clean water is not the end of the story, it doesn't think further than one move in advance of each other's opponent. It's like playing chess, you can't win just by anticipating what your opponent will do next turn, you need to think ahead of it. So the story is either incomplete (about the delay you have when poisoned), or impossible to solve 100% (too many possibilities and odds), or the answer is "dragon lives and knight dies" (the only conclusion I can think of).
If they can drink 2 poisons after the one they're given by the enemy, both live.
If they can only drink 1 poison after the one they're given by the enemy, dragon lives and knights dies.
All other options haven't a 100% die/live result.
I don't see how the dragon could die, or the knight.
There is no SPOILER tag. Blah.
Let's see.
DRAGON :
Before the duel, the dragon drinks from well 5. After the duel, he drinks from well 6.
The knight can give :
If the knight gives water from well 1-5, this will have not effect on the dragon : he is still poisoned by well 5. He then drinks from well 6 and is cured.
If the knight gives plain water, the dragon is still poisoned by well 5. He then drinks from well 6 and is cured.
The dragon always lives.
KNIGHT :
Before the duel, the knight drinks from well 1. After the duel, he drinks from well 1, then from well 5.
The dragon can give :
If the dragon gives water from well 1, this will have no effect on the knight. He is still poisoned. He then drinks from well 1 (still poisoned by 1) and then from well 5 : he is cured.
If the dragon gives water from well 2-6, this will cure the knight from well 1. He is cured. He poisons himself with well 1, but cures himself with well 5. He is cured.
If the dragon gives plain water, the knight is poisoned by well 1. He then drinks from well 1 and is still poisoned by 1. Then, he drinks from well 5 : he is cured.
No matter what, both the dragon and the knight live. They then decide that this duel was stupid, and live happily together. When the knight finally dies of old age, the dragon decides to suicide to follow his friend to the realm of the dead. He drinks from the well 6, and dies.
THE END.
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Not looked at the thread replys yet, wanna answer on my own ;)
The knight drinks a glass of water from well 1 before the duel, expecting the dragon to give him water from well 6. The dragon takes a glass of water from well 6 and gives it to the knight, thinking that because there is nothing higher than well 6, the knight will have to die. The knight however brings a glass from well 5. The dragon dies and the knight lives because the dragon gave the knight the antidote.
Now to read the thread to see if i'm correct :D. Also, i'm assuming that they don't then go and drink water before they die. If they do, they both survive because the dragon can neutralise all water by drinking from well 6.
Here's what I think happened: The knight drinks well 1 water before the duel, expecting the dragon to poison him. Then, after the duel, the knight drinks well 1 water again, followed by well 2 (or 3, 4, or 5, doesn't matter). It then doesn't matter what the dragon gave him. If the dragon gave him 2-6, then the knight got poisoned and cured twice. If the dragon gave him 1 or unpoisoned water, then the knight was simply poisoned repeatedly with 1 (which has no cumulative effect) and then cured himself with well 2 that he drank afterward.
The dragon, however, expected the knight to try to poison him. So after the duel the dragon went and drank from well 6 (which cures everything) but because the knight just gave him unpoisoned water he died.
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Not if the dragon drank water 1 after the duel, then went and drank water 6 :P
Well, there are ways that the dragon could also survive, but the point is that the knight had a 100% chance while the dragon didn't.
The dragon always survive, whatever happens:
Poison #5 before the duel + any poison during the duel + poison #6 after the duel = safe
Poison #5 before the duel + clean water during the duel + poison #6 after the duel = safe
Unless the dragon is too stupid to think of that. He's arrogant because, well, he's a dragon. And he thinks he has an advantage because he's the only one with access to well 6.
the draggon clearly WIN!
the Knight cant get to WELL 6 ( like posted in the first post ) i guess cause its to high .
so all the dragon has to do is give him water from well 5 and the knight is dead!!! BAM
NOW! obviously we want the dragon to live , so how did he do it??
he drank water from well 6 cause it higher then ANY other well the knight could of reached.
You should read some of the posts on the last page. Yours is wrong :) It only looks like the dragon has an advantage, but in actuality - with the right strategy - no one can kill the other one.
if both the dragon and the knight are smart they will do what Jossak said earlier and both will survive. If they are stupid, then anything can happen. So I think the riddle is solved