Edit: Also, please don't mention FPS Creator to me -.-. I paid £300 for a game development course/ holiday two years ago during the summer holidays, and we used that. Worse waste of money ever. They could have at least used CE3 or UE3.
What kind of game are you trying to make? I started out with game maker. I'd say its one of the best beginner game design tools for 2d games. You don't need to know code but you can use code if you want to. It has a free version which is almost as good as the paid version but with an add in your loading bar. And the full version is only 20 bucks. Some very professional looking 2-d games can be created if you spend the time to learn this. It can do 3-d but its very limited with that. So if you want to do 3-d games, stay away from that one.
About FPS creator....I went to a tech camp when I was younger and I used that program for a week. (Possibly the same one as Wolflisk...) Here's my advice: never ever ever EVER even consider forking over the cash for that program.... It was full of glitches, and it's a very limited software. In fact, to make new types of enemies, you have to BUY additional packs of units. For example, look at this. 90 bucks. To get medival stuff. On top of the original purchase price. And like I said before, its extremely glitchy and extremely limited.
MilkSpape, Reality Factory, and Genesis, I have no experience with and can't advise you. But like I said, if you want a solid (and affordable) program for beginner 2-d design, go with game maker. For 3d.... Sc2 editor :D
Speaking of this, how experienced are you? Obviously this will effect which program you will want.
the unreal, which was already linked, along with the source engine (on steam) are the two best editors you can ever want...(and both being free, for non-commercial) is an amazing deal.
tho your post confused the crap out of me when you say "other than 3dmax"
Sorry to confuse anyone. I mean I would like to try 3-dimensional games but I do not have 2k to do it. It would be really cool if the same software that was to create the game also created it's own models too. If I did 2d, it would be stuff like this that I would wanna try.
To create games you either need to be very experienced and have a team to work with and build it from scratch or use an editor.. and indeed. 3dsmax is just a model creator, you just make 3d units or whatever you want with it but it's got nothing to do with making a game other than that. You could build a basic game engine yourself but it's going to be complicated and will take alot of time. You really need to be very good with programming before even trying such a thing.
first time ever doing anything. I can't even use the SC2 editor it boggles my mind :(
Edit: I thought 3ds max with a good programmer was the best game creator. Hmm.
oh wow.. ok if you thought 3d max was a game creater..and the sc2 editor boggles your mind... start out with gamemaker and rpgmaker google both, thats what you need. there fun, easy, and will get you started on the most basic of concepts of which you can bring to the next level in advance editors/programing.
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I know 3ds isn't a "game creator" in itself, but can't you create the models and textures, and then program them to have animations/abilities with something else? That would be a game would it not?
Anyway, I hate the idea of programming. I just wanna make the visuals... All those stupid things really annoy me. If you put an extra " _ " or something it RUINS the entire thing. What the h does programming even mean anyway. It's all a bunch of wierd words and messed up numbers I don't want to care about... Can't you make something without it?
No offense guys, but starting out is always the hardest part for me. It is so boring I just quit. I have actually tried to do something similar to this a while ago, but it got so sickening. I fear if I won't be able to make a spinoff of COD on my own, I'll just not be able to stick with it.
What types of things do REAL game makers use? Call of Duty, Halo, Starwars Battlefront, Need for Speed, I could go on, but you get the idea.
Programming is actually very rewarding, you should try it out. The idea may sound lame to you but I actually find it very enjoyable. I'll give you a list of stuff people use to make a game.
3DS Max or Maya as a Modeling program, you can animate your models in there too.
Photoshop to make the 2D images and artwork.
Some companies use a C+ + Open Source Compiler, they also use a C# one I think.
Then of course you need to program a level editor, otherwise how do you make maps or anything to that extent?
Texture work on models is done in 3DS Max or Maya. Textures for in-game materials like grass differ. I have seen some people use Max for it and some using Photoshop.
There is a lot more then that to cover but that should give you an idea.
I got a bit curious and started poking around the net trying to find a decent game design program other than 3ds max.
http://www.realityfactory.info/cms/home.html
http://www.genesis3d.com/
http://www.fpscreator.com/index.php
http://www.milkshape3d.com/
I found all of these so far.
BTW: funny pic I found below
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UDK is best imo. Free and professional.
Edit: Also, please don't mention FPS Creator to me -.-. I paid £300 for a game development course/ holiday two years ago during the summer holidays, and we used that. Worse waste of money ever. They could have at least used CE3 or UE3.
game designer or 3d editor..... not the same thing...
When I first played Starcraft II I did a 6 pool. Literally. Do you know if these programs are as good as 3DS Max?
Link?
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http://www.udk.com/ :)
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It's probably illegal to torrent 3ds max eh? (totally off-topic)
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Curse PremiumWhat kind of game are you trying to make? I started out with game maker. I'd say its one of the best beginner game design tools for 2d games. You don't need to know code but you can use code if you want to. It has a free version which is almost as good as the paid version but with an add in your loading bar. And the full version is only 20 bucks. Some very professional looking 2-d games can be created if you spend the time to learn this. It can do 3-d but its very limited with that. So if you want to do 3-d games, stay away from that one.
About FPS creator....I went to a tech camp when I was younger and I used that program for a week. (Possibly the same one as Wolflisk...) Here's my advice: never ever ever EVER even consider forking over the cash for that program.... It was full of glitches, and it's a very limited software. In fact, to make new types of enemies, you have to BUY additional packs of units. For example, look at this. 90 bucks. To get medival stuff. On top of the original purchase price. And like I said before, its extremely glitchy and extremely limited.
MilkSpape, Reality Factory, and Genesis, I have no experience with and can't advise you. But like I said, if you want a solid (and affordable) program for beginner 2-d design, go with game maker. For 3d.... Sc2 editor :D
Speaking of this, how experienced are you? Obviously this will effect which program you will want.
the unreal, which was already linked, along with the source engine (on steam) are the two best editors you can ever want...(and both being free, for non-commercial) is an amazing deal.
tho your post confused the crap out of me when you say "other than 3dmax"
Sorry to confuse anyone. I mean I would like to try 3-dimensional games but I do not have 2k to do it. It would be really cool if the same software that was to create the game also created it's own models too. If I did 2d, it would be stuff like this that I would wanna try.
http://www.addictinggames.com/black.html
And if I ever get better at it...
http://armorgames.com/play/10015/bubble-tanks-3
(yes I know a team of 5 thirty year olds did this)
Custom models, custom animations, textures, the works. Basically everything visual in the SC2 editor I would like to be able to make on my own
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first time ever doing anything. I can't even use the SC2 editor it boggles my mind :(
Edit: I thought 3ds max with a good programmer was the best game creator. Hmm.
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All 3DS max is is to make models, like the units you see in SC2. It's not a game creator.
To create games you either need to be very experienced and have a team to work with and build it from scratch or use an editor.. and indeed. 3dsmax is just a model creator, you just make 3d units or whatever you want with it but it's got nothing to do with making a game other than that. You could build a basic game engine yourself but it's going to be complicated and will take alot of time. You really need to be very good with programming before even trying such a thing.
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lol @ the 6-pool picture :)
btw I learned creating games in Warcraft 3, very similair to SC2 but much more easy to use
http://unity3d.com/ is also pretty good, got me interested after kongregate added support for unity games.
oh wow.. ok if you thought 3d max was a game creater..and the sc2 editor boggles your mind... start out with gamemaker and rpgmaker google both, thats what you need. there fun, easy, and will get you started on the most basic of concepts of which you can bring to the next level in advance editors/programing.
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Curse PremiumHe's right- If you don't understand sc2 editor really well, go with game maker.
I know 3ds isn't a "game creator" in itself, but can't you create the models and textures, and then program them to have animations/abilities with something else? That would be a game would it not?
Anyway, I hate the idea of programming. I just wanna make the visuals... All those stupid things really annoy me. If you put an extra " _ " or something it RUINS the entire thing. What the h does programming even mean anyway. It's all a bunch of wierd words and messed up numbers I don't want to care about... Can't you make something without it?
No offense guys, but starting out is always the hardest part for me. It is so boring I just quit. I have actually tried to do something similar to this a while ago, but it got so sickening. I fear if I won't be able to make a spinoff of COD on my own, I'll just not be able to stick with it.
What types of things do REAL game makers use? Call of Duty, Halo, Starwars Battlefront, Need for Speed, I could go on, but you get the idea.
@Reaper872: Go
Programming is actually very rewarding, you should try it out. The idea may sound lame to you but I actually find it very enjoyable. I'll give you a list of stuff people use to make a game.
3DS Max or Maya as a Modeling program, you can animate your models in there too. Photoshop to make the 2D images and artwork. Some companies use a C+ + Open Source Compiler, they also use a C# one I think. Then of course you need to program a level editor, otherwise how do you make maps or anything to that extent? Texture work on models is done in 3DS Max or Maya. Textures for in-game materials like grass differ. I have seen some people use Max for it and some using Photoshop.
There is a lot more then that to cover but that should give you an idea.