Something new coming from Blizzard, next probably being Hearth-Stone Im guessing.
Thoughts?. Personally I Wasnt impressed with Diablo 3(so many issues), and this expansion looks/feels generic. As some have posted on the video, if it were free great, otherwise another 40 or $60 is probably not worth it. Also, only one new class.
Something new coming from Blizzard, next probably being Hearth-Stone Im guessing.
Thoughts?. Personally I Wasnt impressed with Diablo 3(so many issues), and this expansion looks/feels generic. As some have posted on the video, if it were free great, otherwise another 40 or $60 is probably not worth it. Also, only one new class.
I thought D3 was good, way better then that crappy D2 where if you mess up you have to start all the way over just because of lazy game design, Just disappointed that once again idiots will flock to buy this expansion despite it only being about 10% the original games content. and 80% the originals price. just like LoD... a huge waste of time.
they add/alter/fix:
- account wide paragon system replacing the hero's paragon levels. It seems to have new effects and paragon levels are "unlimited" (*cough* *cough*)
- alter drops to spawn less white, less blue, less rare (but better for your class), more legendaries (which are better than before [it seems like legendaries contain multiple tiers now with stars as indicators for their rarity])
- make white items important for crafting
- transmogrification (copy visual appearance of item x to item y) at mystic artisan (mystic re-added)
- rerolling single affixes at mystic artisan
- more account bound stuff to mitigate auction house
- new act, new class, 10 more levels, cinematics
- loot runs (new endgame stuff that is more similar to D2 baal runs, it seems). Also, "random" dungeons (my suspicion: something like 8 dungeon formats and one is selected) and random monster type appearances in those dungeons (like D2's guest monsters). Also, the dungeons have random lightings, so their huge tiles won't look totally the same every play-through.
Basically, they addressed most things the community wanted to have changed (which did not mean a complete redesign of the whole game to keep vanilla D3 intact). But, the expansion might be far away, maybe they will add another class... I was hoping for 2 new classes just to match D2 LoD. But all the time they had to spend to fix vanilla and redo loot, might have made it not fit into the expansion anymore. =/
I thought D3 was good, way better then that crappy D2 where if you mess up you have to start all the way over just because of lazy game design,
D2 received a way to refund a few skill points as far as I know. That was added with one of the last patches. If you throw your hero away because of a few stat points and complain about it, you might be too "elitist", though.
they add/alter/fix:
- account wide paragon system replacing the hero's paragon levels. It seems to have new effects and paragon levels are "unlimited" (*cough* *cough*)
- alter drops to spawn less white, less blue, less rare (but better for your class), more legendaries (which are better than before [it seems like legendaries contain multiple tiers now with stars as indicators for their rarity])
- make white items important for crafting
- transmogrification (copy visual appearance of item x to item y) at mystic artisan (mystic re-added)
- rerolling single affixes at mystic artisan
- more account bound stuff to mitigate auction house
- new act, new class, 10 more levels, cinematics
- loot runs (new endgame stuff that is more similar to D2 baal runs, it seems). Also, "random" dungeons (my suspicion: something like 8 dungeon formats and one is selected) and random monster type appearances in those dungeons (like D2's guest monsters). Also, the dungeons have random lightings, so their huge tiles won't look totally the same every play-through.
Basically, they addressed most things the community wanted to have changed (which did not mean a complete redesign of the whole game to keep vanilla D3 intact). But, the expansion might be far away, maybe they will add another class... I was hoping for 2 new classes just to match D2 LoD. But all the time they had to spend to fix vanilla and redo loot, might have made it not fit into the expansion anymore. =/
D2 received a way to refund a few skill points as far as I know. That was added with one of the last patches. If you throw your hero away because of a few stat points and complain about it, you might be too "elitist", though.
Is there actually even PvP in d3 yet? Or is this going to come with the Expansion, despite being promised shortly after d3 release?
There is the one-hit-kill PvP area. I assume they failed to alter it to something that wasn't suffering terribly in some aspects. So, they just took the default rules and added it to the game and maybe revisit it someday.
I thought D3 was good, way better then that crappy D2 where if you mess up you have to start all the way over just because of lazy game design, Just disappointed that once again idiots will flock to buy this expansion despite it only being about 10% the original games content. and 80% the originals price. just like LoD... a huge waste of time.
Strongly opinionated as usual with a useless post. TaintedWisp.(I guessed before checking, was too obvious) So basically only 'idiots' will buy the expansion?, despite their preference or whatever perceived value they see in it. I think your dislike for Diablo 2(from your obnoxious statements) stems from the fact that you were bad at the game.. Stick to CoD.
I sadly lost my faith (and for that reason interest as well) in D3 a long time ago. As good as this expansion may be, I think it might be already too late to drag people back in - especially with a full game price.
If still have to complete my test of your remake of diablo 1,but i have a question,is the complete remake of diablo 1 or the remake until the butcher kill?Anyway congrats is really great remake,also if i don't like so much the diablo 1 upgrades system.
So i will buy the expansion and i am an idiot? Damned troll
I was a bit deluded by Diablo 3,not only for the loot and similar stuffs,but for the storyline and the diabllo sexy girl design :( I hope that this expansion will be good also on storyline... :/ Good luck blizzard i don't hatre only because you did huge mistakes with diablo 3,i am not that type of BM that from love goes to hate on few seconds
I never had much faith in the Diablo franchise, anyways. It was in HotS that I lost my faith.
The truth is that Blizzard started dying the moment they started valuing the WoW franchise more than the others. The success of the MMO did more harm than good to the company. With the enormous boom the success brought in, they started lacking in quality, riding in past successes to keep on their feet. Any other company (i.e. THQ) would have gone bankrupt due to start lacking in quality.
I never had much faith in the Diablo franchise, anyways. It was in HotS that I lost my faith.
The truth is that Blizzard started dying the moment they started valuing the WoW franchise more than the others. The success of the MMO did more harm than good to the company. With the enormous boom the success brought in, they started lacking in quality, riding in past successes to keep on their feet. Any other company (i.e. THQ) would have gone bankrupt due to start lacking in quality.
I think too that WoW stoled tons of time and resources to the other products but the fact is that the storylines of diablo 3 and espeically hots are crap :(
Let's try to be a little more lenient. Diablo 3's plot, though too predictable, was quite acceptable. HotS is an entirely other story, as it went into a level much more below. Even GameSpot and IGN, the sites most likely to comfort great companies, criticized the story, and I even written a critic topic on it, exposing it's rotten structure. What's most aggravating, I repeat, is that Metzen and Co. had two years to change it, since the pre-alpha ending was leaked, but they didn't.
Diablo 3's greatest weight in the failure was the bet Blizzard was making in their auction house, as well as trying to make the game online-only. Fast forward to today, and you'll see the auction house didn't sell much, not to mention it's being frequently hacked, and the online-only idea was heavily criticized.
Blizzard, unfortunately, is coming to a level where it either renews itself or shuts down for good. And, to renew, Sigaty, Metzen and Browder will have to step out. To help Blizzard out, I believe, is to be harsh and true with them. It's telling these people they have no current condition to get competitive in the ever-increasing demands of modern gaming. And that their fans will not aid in their downfall. The greatest problem is the fan-base itself, as there's 90% of pre-teens saturated with romantic works like Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey keeping it afloat. The remainder, even though they're mature and long-dating fans, like myself, just can't voice higher.
you are right,they are not crap,but they are much less then i expected,especially hots,of diablo 3 i only didn't like much the last 2 chpaters plot.You are right also the fan base is a problem... i am lucky to be a 21 years old guy that hate twilight and love dead space :D
I'm completely astonished when watching the loot 2.0 video. Seriously, why was this not just simply in at the start of the game?
There was d1 and d2, to learn from, how they only just now realize that people LIKE items that can potentially change builds and open up new possiblities.
Why would they ever think everyone just wants flat boring passive items with +100 said attribute and +critical strike and +attack speed.
Blizzard, lately, has been erring too much on the side of casuals, trying to make things too easy, like it was with Starcraft II's AI. A clear example of such casualizing is right at the first three missions of Wings of Liberty, with the amount of resource caches available as well as the predictable Zerg waves in the bunker defense mission.
Diablo 3 runs with several gimmicks that spoil the experience, starting with the Orbs, in a pathetic attempt to copy-cat God of War's health regen system through grinding and killing stuff. Then, there's mountains of gold you can just loot by killing stuff, like in Darksiders II. This kills experience and 'trial by error' because casuals won't just accept they're doing it wrong and keep on whining for days on end. Many experiences are learnt in the hard way. The only experience I managed so far, with Starcraft II, was in the All In (Last mission).
If still have to complete my test of your remake of diablo 1,but i have a question,is the complete remake of diablo 1 or the remake until the butcher kill?Anyway congrats is really great remake,also if i don't like so much the diablo 1 upgrades system.
Cathedral, Catacombs, Caves are basically done. Hell is incomplete as I require wall models, a diablo model (currently I've D3 diablo without death animation :X ) and need to implement the last 2 quests. Then a normal playthrough would be done.
I'm planning to add skills to the map as the spell book system isn't great for Warriors/Rogues and the default attack all the time isn't great neither. That was working in 1996, but not in 2013. The spell books should provide synergies to the skills, though. The sorcerer should rely on the spell books, but receive something to alter the spells... I'm not too sure what I will do and I'm lacking ideas what to do.
@topic
Right now I think D3 keeps heading into the right direction. They made mistakes, but they are willing to correct them. When I will get more info about D3X on gamescom tomorrow, I will drop the info here in approx 24 hours. :)
Also, there is another new feature I forgot in my list: "Nephalem Trials". So fare there is no information about that.
I've no idea what it is, but Lylirra (I think) posted on twitter that the developers will share more info about that in some interviews and that it is their brain child (-> so most likely nothing that was suggested by the community in the form they've planned to add).
@DEFILERRULEZ: Go
Right now I think D3 keeps heading into the right direction. They made mistakes, but they are willing to correct them.
This, my friend, is called basic PR. To not admit they made mistakes would be to shoot their own foot, but they only say this from the mouth out. I'm the type of guy whom only believes they made changes and corrected mistakes when I see it.
Sometimes I find myself wanting that hack&slash nonstop mouse-abusing experience and think about reinstalling D3 just for combat it provides. But then I remember all the boring and uninspired items that I found. And I know that more of the same is waiting for me, wanting to smother me in blandness and complete lack of excitement.
Really want to see difference between sales amount of original and expansion in first few months. Maybe will buy it when it becomes cheap if blizz adds any significant depth to itemization, which I don't think they will. This reaper won't have me ;/
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Something new coming from Blizzard, next probably being Hearth-Stone Im guessing.
Thoughts?. Personally I Wasnt impressed with Diablo 3(so many issues), and this expansion looks/feels generic. As some have posted on the video, if it were free great, otherwise another 40 or $60 is probably not worth it. Also, only one new class.
My first and last thought upon seeing this thread's title:
"Oh right, the Diablo 3 expansion."
I thought D3 was good, way better then that crappy D2 where if you mess up you have to start all the way over just because of lazy game design, Just disappointed that once again idiots will flock to buy this expansion despite it only being about 10% the original games content. and 80% the originals price. just like LoD... a huge waste of time.
they add/alter/fix:
- account wide paragon system replacing the hero's paragon levels. It seems to have new effects and paragon levels are "unlimited" (*cough* *cough*)
- alter drops to spawn less white, less blue, less rare (but better for your class), more legendaries (which are better than before [it seems like legendaries contain multiple tiers now with stars as indicators for their rarity])
- make white items important for crafting
- transmogrification (copy visual appearance of item x to item y) at mystic artisan (mystic re-added)
- rerolling single affixes at mystic artisan
- more account bound stuff to mitigate auction house
- new act, new class, 10 more levels, cinematics
- loot runs (new endgame stuff that is more similar to D2 baal runs, it seems). Also, "random" dungeons (my suspicion: something like 8 dungeon formats and one is selected) and random monster type appearances in those dungeons (like D2's guest monsters). Also, the dungeons have random lightings, so their huge tiles won't look totally the same every play-through.
Basically, they addressed most things the community wanted to have changed (which did not mean a complete redesign of the whole game to keep vanilla D3 intact). But, the expansion might be far away, maybe they will add another class... I was hoping for 2 new classes just to match D2 LoD. But all the time they had to spend to fix vanilla and redo loot, might have made it not fit into the expansion anymore. =/
D2 received a way to refund a few skill points as far as I know. That was added with one of the last patches. If you throw your hero away because of a few stat points and complain about it, you might be too "elitist", though.
Is there actually even PvP in d3 yet? Or is this going to come with the Expansion, despite being promised shortly after d3 release?
They added a very basic and minimal pvp to D3 not too long ago.
Much needed changes. Might just revive the game.
There is the one-hit-kill PvP area. I assume they failed to alter it to something that wasn't suffering terribly in some aspects. So, they just took the default rules and added it to the game and maybe revisit it someday.
Strongly opinionated as usual with a useless post. TaintedWisp.(I guessed before checking, was too obvious) So basically only 'idiots' will buy the expansion?, despite their preference or whatever perceived value they see in it. I think your dislike for Diablo 2(from your obnoxious statements) stems from the fact that you were bad at the game.. Stick to CoD.
I sadly lost my faith (and for that reason interest as well) in D3 a long time ago. As good as this expansion may be, I think it might be already too late to drag people back in - especially with a full game price.
@Ahli634: Go
If still have to complete my test of your remake of diablo 1,but i have a question,is the complete remake of diablo 1 or the remake until the butcher kill?Anyway congrats is really great remake,also if i don't like so much the diablo 1 upgrades system.
@Vilgath: Go
So i will buy the expansion and i am an idiot? Damned troll I was a bit deluded by Diablo 3,not only for the loot and similar stuffs,but for the storyline and the diabllo sexy girl design :( I hope that this expansion will be good also on storyline... :/ Good luck blizzard i don't hatre only because you did huge mistakes with diablo 3,i am not that type of BM that from love goes to hate on few seconds
@ScorpSCII: Go
I never had much faith in the Diablo franchise, anyways. It was in HotS that I lost my faith.
The truth is that Blizzard started dying the moment they started valuing the WoW franchise more than the others. The success of the MMO did more harm than good to the company. With the enormous boom the success brought in, they started lacking in quality, riding in past successes to keep on their feet. Any other company (i.e. THQ) would have gone bankrupt due to start lacking in quality.
I think too that WoW stoled tons of time and resources to the other products but the fact is that the storylines of diablo 3 and espeically hots are crap :(
@DEFILERRULEZ: Go
Let's try to be a little more lenient. Diablo 3's plot, though too predictable, was quite acceptable. HotS is an entirely other story, as it went into a level much more below. Even GameSpot and IGN, the sites most likely to comfort great companies, criticized the story, and I even written a critic topic on it, exposing it's rotten structure. What's most aggravating, I repeat, is that Metzen and Co. had two years to change it, since the pre-alpha ending was leaked, but they didn't.
Diablo 3's greatest weight in the failure was the bet Blizzard was making in their auction house, as well as trying to make the game online-only. Fast forward to today, and you'll see the auction house didn't sell much, not to mention it's being frequently hacked, and the online-only idea was heavily criticized.
Blizzard, unfortunately, is coming to a level where it either renews itself or shuts down for good. And, to renew, Sigaty, Metzen and Browder will have to step out. To help Blizzard out, I believe, is to be harsh and true with them. It's telling these people they have no current condition to get competitive in the ever-increasing demands of modern gaming. And that their fans will not aid in their downfall. The greatest problem is the fan-base itself, as there's 90% of pre-teens saturated with romantic works like Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey keeping it afloat. The remainder, even though they're mature and long-dating fans, like myself, just can't voice higher.
you are right,they are not crap,but they are much less then i expected,especially hots,of diablo 3 i only didn't like much the last 2 chpaters plot.You are right also the fan base is a problem... i am lucky to be a 21 years old guy that hate twilight and love dead space :D
I'm completely astonished when watching the loot 2.0 video. Seriously, why was this not just simply in at the start of the game?
There was d1 and d2, to learn from, how they only just now realize that people LIKE items that can potentially change builds and open up new possiblities.
Why would they ever think everyone just wants flat boring passive items with +100 said attribute and +critical strike and +attack speed.
@Fullachain: Go
Blizzard, lately, has been erring too much on the side of casuals, trying to make things too easy, like it was with Starcraft II's AI. A clear example of such casualizing is right at the first three missions of Wings of Liberty, with the amount of resource caches available as well as the predictable Zerg waves in the bunker defense mission.
Diablo 3 runs with several gimmicks that spoil the experience, starting with the Orbs, in a pathetic attempt to copy-cat God of War's health regen system through grinding and killing stuff. Then, there's mountains of gold you can just loot by killing stuff, like in Darksiders II. This kills experience and 'trial by error' because casuals won't just accept they're doing it wrong and keep on whining for days on end. Many experiences are learnt in the hard way. The only experience I managed so far, with Starcraft II, was in the All In (Last mission).
Cathedral, Catacombs, Caves are basically done. Hell is incomplete as I require wall models, a diablo model (currently I've D3 diablo without death animation :X ) and need to implement the last 2 quests. Then a normal playthrough would be done.
I'm planning to add skills to the map as the spell book system isn't great for Warriors/Rogues and the default attack all the time isn't great neither. That was working in 1996, but not in 2013. The spell books should provide synergies to the skills, though. The sorcerer should rely on the spell books, but receive something to alter the spells... I'm not too sure what I will do and I'm lacking ideas what to do.
@topic
Right now I think D3 keeps heading into the right direction. They made mistakes, but they are willing to correct them. When I will get more info about D3X on gamescom tomorrow, I will drop the info here in approx 24 hours. :)
Also, there is another new feature I forgot in my list: "Nephalem Trials". So fare there is no information about that.
I've no idea what it is, but Lylirra (I think) posted on twitter that the developers will share more info about that in some interviews and that it is their brain child (-> so most likely nothing that was suggested by the community in the form they've planned to add).
This, my friend, is called basic PR. To not admit they made mistakes would be to shoot their own foot, but they only say this from the mouth out. I'm the type of guy whom only believes they made changes and corrected mistakes when I see it.
Ah, the expansion to my beloved diablo franchise.
Sometimes I find myself wanting that hack&slash nonstop mouse-abusing experience and think about reinstalling D3 just for combat it provides. But then I remember all the boring and uninspired items that I found. And I know that more of the same is waiting for me, wanting to smother me in blandness and complete lack of excitement.
Really want to see difference between sales amount of original and expansion in first few months. Maybe will buy it when it becomes cheap if blizz adds any significant depth to itemization, which I don't think they will. This reaper won't have me ;/