my IT teacher gave me a rediculously low grade (5.3/10) for a practical which, in my eyes, was just fine. Not to mention the fact that I am the best in class
its really rediculous that someone that's the best in class can get worse grades than someone who just tags along with his fellow classmates (we work in groups) as my group mate did get a 6.3/10
so I sent an email to my teacher saying he's a big pile of shit and I hope they fire him (they should never even have hired him in the first place in my eyes, every teacher agrees that he's a terrible teacher, instead of teaching us he refers us to websites and I have personally learned more from tutorials than from his. also, he can't solve problems that occour to your scripts (he doesn't even understand the basic table-html scripts).
so now I'm in big trouble. somehow this teacher hates me (well why'd that be?)
not sure if this is appropriate but hence its an off-topic topic so...
anyway any thoughts? You guys know that you love getting involved in these kind of posts!
You are doing it wrong. You take it to the higher-ups if the teacher is favoruring other students or has not got the qualifications to be a teacher, thats the best you can do. If everyone in the class would meet up with the higher ups to talk about it, there is a slight chance they might re-assign him to different duties or just fire/not make new contract with him. In worst case cenario you could do something like not going to his class at all (if you get your whole class in the idea, but I dont think its easy to go that far...)
And well...grades dont really mean that much? But if the teacher is being unfrair just because he doesnt like you, you should definetly try to contact someone about this...you could even try to talk with the teacher first to find out why did you get what you got. But insulting wont solve anything in this case.
and oh yea...Iv had my share of fucking shithead teacher too...I did whine about that in some other thread already :(
Probably your reaction just made it worse. Now its impossible to go back. As Zenx1 said if the whole class has the same view about the teacher its possible to do something about it. Once I was in a Molecular Biology class and we managed to save ourselves from the grades the teacher had given us and he didn't come back for the next year. I still don't understand it as much as I should, but at least other students didn't have to attend class with such a terrible teacher.
have done so, but there's obviously a shortage of money/decent teachers because they have been getting complaints for over 2 years about this guy and they haven't changed a thing about it
'pissed off' would have been a better title on second thought
If it's one or two complains every year they aren't going to do anything. School's get complaints about teachers all the time. You either have to get practically all his students to complain or say the teacher raped some kid, but now a days they are getting out even for that. You could also try saying he has drugs in the class and plant them in there.
You have no idea how well I understand your position. Prepare for a big rant somewhere in the upcoming days, when I've got time to spit out the situation I'm in. Precisely this is the reason why I spent two years at home after finishing high school. School screws up, creates shit for you when all you want to do is get a damn paper, and the only way to fix it is to create even more shit yourself.
4. Get a job where annoying teacher's kids go to school.
5. Fuck their lifes up.
6. Enjoy sweet revenge
...Nuff said. I do understand your situation, though. It's annoying as hell when you feel unnoticed or estimated wrongly. Sometimes, it's good to have a reasonable chat with your teacher about it - that solved my problems... Now it's too late though, I guess.
I started a course in History in Uni in August. At a city that's about 2 hours travel time away (door to door), meaning I spend about 4 hours a day traveling whenever I have to go there.
It started off with my timetable: I have 12 hours of contact, which could be fit into a grand total of 2 days in an optimal situation (6 hours of college per day, meaning if we'd start at our earliest (8:45, meaning I'd have to get up at 6), we'd be done around 16:00 and I'd be home by 18:00. Those would be fairly rough days, but hey, it'd be 2 days a week; I'd be free for the other 3 days.
Now what happened was that instead of going anywhere near the optimal setup, they gave me the worst setup possible. That is to say I've got to get up at 6, follow a college, have five hours off and then follow a second college (and get back home at 19:30) on both monday and wednesday. On tuesdays, thursdays and fridays I've got a grand total of 1 hour of college, meaning that three days of my week I spend more time traveling than actually having college. I later found out that this ridiculous timetable was done this way on purpose, because the teachers wanted students to 'know what a week's worth of study meant' (keep in mind we're talking about 19-25 year olds here who all have either decent sidejobs or have even already completed a pre-university study). And then I'm not even mentioning the fact that I used to be in a contact group that had slightly better hours (no 5 hours off on wednesday, at least) but got transferred at random because there were too many students in my contact group.
But hey, forget the timetables: lets delve into the two subjects I spent my first period on. That would be something called "Historical Practice" and "The ancient world" (Archaic/Classical Rome & Greece).
For the first course in that line, the course goes like this: lectures (where you sit and take notes) are once a week, and you're obliged to come. Out of the 8 lectures I've had so far, 1 actually did something for my grade (we had to make a summary of the college and that got graded), 2 were actually interesting (and that includes the one I had to summarize) and all 6 others were both boring as hell and useless in terms of grading - none of the stuff we heard in there is ever going to come back to me.
As for seminars, we have these instead of lectures every two weeks. Our 'teacher' is someone who himself is (I think) in the last year of the History course at my uni. He's a total moron. Aside from the fact that nothing he does actually helps us in any way (he brings up our answers on a powerpoint and tells us whether they are wrong or correct, without even saying why), I shall illustrate this by giving two examples:
1) We use an online system, Blackboard, to turn in our assignments. This guy doesn't like to inspect our work on a PC, so he's forcing us to print all our assignments as well and turn them in on paper. And he's forcing us to print them again so we have our own work with us when we're at a seminar. When one of my groupmates asked him if he couldn't simply hand us back the assignments we turned in earlier during the seminars so we wouldn't have to print them twice, his response was literally (and I quote) that "you do gain benefit from him double checking your answers". He dodged the entire question. Speaking of dodging;
2) Last seminar he told us that we really should've turned a specific assignment in on paper in a specific way. One of my groupmates said that we had no idea we were supposed to do that. He said he sent an e-mail about it. Since I've got my laptop with me during these colleges, I checked my mailbox and said we never got any such e-mail. The guy just repeated his earlier line ("I sent you guys an e-mail about it") and then went on to talk about a different subject. My groupmate and me looked at eachother, shrugged, and continued staring out of the window.
Now I partake in a specific group that attempts to make uni courses better by registering complaints and passing them on. People from all different workgroups in my study are in here. ALL of them said that their Historical Practice teacher was a bad one, the course was set up in a really terrible fashion and that nobody knew what to do half the time (there's a lot more to this; stuff like the lead organizer for this course setting up group assignments during our week off when nobody's actually present at the uni and everybody's at home learning for his exams next week). Funnily enough, the guy running this course also runs the course of 'Medieval Studies' that I've just started now that I'm in my second semester. Which, so far, is also a complete mess (a wall of non-important obligatory assignments bigger than this text)
But to go back to "The ancient world", the second course I spent my first semester on: this one was actually well organized and fun. I was the top student in my class when it comes to seminars; I made the most (and best) points in our discussions, turned in all assignments days before they were due and just got complimented all-round for my work. In terms of lectures, I skipped one out of about 25. A friend of mine skipped about 5 or 6. When the exam was coming up, I spent a week studying and created a summary in the form of a highly detailed timeline, complete with colour codes and all important events in a specific period of time. That same friend spent the week on holiday to England, and all he did was read through a summary of our book once. He got a 6 for his exam, I got a 5. I won't know why until next week wednesday.
But Mozared, I hear you think; if all of this stuff sucks so badly, why aren't you complaining to your uni? There should be people who can fix this stuff for you, right? Correct, and that brings me to my point. There's a 'study-advisor' who's job it is to do something about situations like these. But guess what: she's only reachable between 8 and 10 on tuesday and thursday. And guess when my lectures are on those days? You got it, 15:45 'till 17:30. Meaning that if I'd ever want to talk to her, I'd immediately have a week where three of my days were of the "get up at 6, follow a lecture, somehow spent five hours keeping myself busy there, follow a second lecture and get home at 19:30" kind.
So yeah, long story short: I too am in a situation where school and its teachers are screwing a lot of stuff up for me while I'm trying to keep my head above the water. The only way for me to fix this is to have an even heavier week and give up even more free time. Not to mention the irony that is obligatory lectures that do absolutely nothing for your grade, and non-obligatory study stuff that actually helps your grade; meaning that I'm now having to skip out the important stuff in order to do the useless stuff. Good luck with your situation, other than bailing out I'm not sure if there's a lot you can easily do to fix it. Writing an angry mail could possibly work, but you'd need someone who listens, and not the gay ass teacher who is the cause of your problems.
I started a course in History in Uni in August. At a city that's about 2 hours travel time away (door to door), meaning I spend about 4 hours a day traveling whenever I have to go there.
It started off with my timetable: I have 12 hours of contact, which could be fit into a grand total of 2 days in an optimal situation (6 hours of college per day, meaning if we'd start at our earliest (8:45, meaning I'd have to get up at 6), we'd be done around 16:00 and I'd be home by 18:00. Those would be fairly rough days, but hey, it'd be 2 days a week; I'd be free for the other 3 days.
Now what happened was that instead of going anywhere near the optimal setup, they gave me the worst setup possible. That is to say I've got to get up at 6, follow a college, have five hours off and then follow a second college (and get back home at 19:30) on both monday and wednesday. On tuesdays, thursdays and fridays I've got a grand total of 1 hour of college, meaning that three days of my week I spend more time traveling than actually having college. I later found out that this ridiculous timetable was done this way on purpose, because the teachers wanted students to 'know what a week's worth of study meant' (keep in mind we're talking about 19-25 year olds here who all have either decent sidejobs or have even already completed a pre-university study). And then I'm not even mentioning the fact that I used to be in a contact group that had slightly better hours (no 5 hours off on wednesday, at least) but got transferred at random because there were too many students in my contact group.
But hey, forget the timetables: lets delve into the two subjects I spent my first period on. That would be something called "Historical Practice" and "The ancient world" (Archaic/Classical Rome Greece).
For the first course in that line, the course goes like this: lectures (where you sit and take notes) are once a week, and you're obliged to come. Out of the 8 lectures I've had so far, 1 actually did something for my grade (we had to make a summary of the college and that got graded), 2 were actually interesting (and that includes the one I had to summarize) and all 6 others were both boring as hell and useless in terms of grading - none of the stuff we heard in there is ever going to come back to me.
As for seminars, we have these instead of lectures every two weeks. Our 'teacher' is someone who himself is (I think) in the last year of the History course at my uni. He's a total moron. Aside from the fact that nothing he does actually helps us in any way (he brings up our answers on a powerpoint and tells us whether they are wrong or correct, without even saying why), I shall illustrate this by giving two examples:
1) We use an online system, Blackboard, to turn in our assignments. This guy doesn't like to inspect our work on a PC, so he's forcing us to print all our assignments as well and turn them in on paper. And he's forcing us to print them again so we have our own work with us when we're at a seminar. When one of my groupmates asked him if he couldn't simply hand us back the assignments we turned in earlier during the seminars so we wouldn't have to print them twice, his response was literally (and I quote) that "you do gain benefit from him double checking your answers". He dodged the entire question. Speaking of dodging;
2) Last seminar he told us that we really should've turned a specific assignment in on paper in a specific way. One of my groupmates said that we had no idea we were supposed to do that. He said he sent an e-mail about it. Since I've got my laptop with me during these colleges, I checked my mailbox and said we never got any such e-mail. The guy just repeated his earlier line ("I sent you guys an e-mail about it") and then went on to talk about a different subject. My groupmate and me looked at eachother, shrugged, and continued staring out of the window.
Now I partake in a specific group that attempts to make uni courses better by registering complaints and passing them on. People from all different workgroups in my study are in here. ALL of them said that their Historical Practice teacher was a bad one, the course was set up in a really terrible fashion and that nobody knew what to do half the time (there's a lot more to this; stuff like the lead organizer for this course setting up group assignments during our week off when nobody's actually present at the uni and everybody's at home learning for his exams next week). Funnily enough, the guy running this course also runs the course of 'Medieval Studies' that I've just started now that I'm in my second semester. Which, so far, is also a complete mess (a wall of non-important obligatory assignments bigger than this text)
But to go back to "The ancient world", the second course I spent my first semester on: this one was actually well organized and fun. I was the top student in my class when it comes to seminars; I made the most (and best) points in our discussions, turned in all assignments days before they were due and just got complimented all-round for my work. In terms of lectures, I skipped one out of about 25. A friend of mine skipped about 5 or 6. When the exam was coming up, I spent a week studying and created a summary in the form of a highly detailed timeline, complete with colour codes and all important events in a specific period of time. That same friend spent the week on holiday to England, and all he did was read through a summary of our book once. He got a 6 for his exam, I got a 5. I won't know why until next week wednesday.
But Mozared, I hear you think; if all of this stuff sucks so badly, why aren't you complaining to your uni? There should be people who can fix this stuff for you, right? Correct, and that brings me to my point. There's a 'study-advisor' who's job it is to do something about situations like these. But guess what: she's only reachable between 8 and 10 on tuesday and thursday. And guess when my lectures are on those days? You got it, 15:45 'till 17:30. Meaning that if I'd ever want to talk to her, I'd immediately have a week where three of my days were of the "get up at 6, follow a lecture, somehow spent five hours keeping myself busy there, follow a second lecture and get home at 19:30" kind.
So yeah, long story short: I too am in a situation where school and its teachers are screwing a lot of stuff up for me while I'm trying to keep my head above the water. The only way for me to fix this is to have an even heavier week and give up even more free time. Not to mention the irony that is obligatory lectures that do absolutely nothing for your grade, and non-obligatory study stuff that actually helps your grade; meaning that I'm now having to skip out the important stuff in order to do the useless stuff. Good luck with your situation, other than bailing out I'm not sure if there's a lot you can easily do to fix it. Writing an angry mail could possibly work, but you'd need someone who listens, and not the gay ass teacher who is the cause of your problems.
TL;DR.
Just kidding :)
Universities are a pain in the ass. There is more incentive to keep you there and make you spend more money than to help educate you. Think of it this way: You pay the university in dollars (or euros or whatever)... how do you quantify what you've learned? In other words, universities don't need to compete over intellectual output because it simply can't be measured with accuracy. As far as I can tell, most of them attempt to do this by flaunting about the "super star" geniuses that happened to go to their universities, which would have probably been geniuses anyway.
Everyone has problems with their university. You just gotta roll with the punches. In the end what you learn will be more helpful to you in the future than what your grades will be. Besides, when the zombie apocalypse comes, your GPA won't mean squat.
When I was in high school I smoked with my teachers. Well... two of them. One of them I saw buy from my friend, the other one I found out went to rehab because he accidentally told me when I was teaching him economics (he somehow became an econ teacher and didn't know anything about economics. So he gave me an A and I helped him with the next chapter after school. Once I got to teach the class because he forgot what how to do one of the equations). I had one horrible teacher though that was a psychopath (she got this weird nervous twitch when we annoyed her, and sometimes it would get really bad and she got these weird convulsions. Looked like she was having a seizure... she went apeshit on me once because I corrected something on her board. It was a huge ordeal too, there was an inquiry and everything. I got suspended for like five days...).
shes evil i bet she deserved those curse words being pelted at her. seriously shes a punk for using the system to save her from falling further from grace... man. btw some teachers just deserve every bad word in the book... and a bunch of punches to their ugly face. i know this because one teacher i was with 8 or more years ago and one when i was reallty young. bullied me like hell. the one from 8 years ago was a snotty real world only person who didn't respect people's weaknesses or dreams. and as for the person(s) when i was younger they were evil. they treated me like an adult when i was like 4 years old... i mean wtf thats messed up man... so yea teachers like that in fact people like that who bully you for the littlest things need to be knocked into submission and have their power stripped from them... oh and btw on another related note i once saw someone who had a thread about "im done with girls" when i was looking something up... the girl mentioned deserved to be damned too... sorry if i ranted but i really hate such things. and yea i know hate is bad like poision but i have trouble with it.
I remember during my GD classes, we had a teacher that kept asking us to redo everything. We were tight on schedule already (mostly because our previous project led to nowhere, so we had to switch to another... we basically lost 4 months out of 10 available), and this teacher kept making us lose more time by saying "I don't like the color you used here, do it again" and bla bla bla...
At first we listened to her, we lost something like 2 more months. And then we decided we shouldn't listen to her anymore. We rushed things a bit and did the thing our own way, and 2 weeks before the official "release" of our projects she was like "wow I'm impressed, it's way better, you worked very hard". We didn't (...that much). She just BELIEVED we did because we kept her away as much as we could...
So basically, if a teacher is always on your back complaining about what you do, just say YES SIR, do as he asked, then replace the whole thing with what you wanted in the end. If you can't stand a teacher watching over your shoulder though, I dare to say you'll have serious issues when your boss will tell you "hey guy, you work like shit, do it better or I'll fire you"... It sucks, but sometimes your boss/teacher can be a real asshole and you just have to make him think he's in charge. Don't listen to them that much, sometimes they're just so focused on the results that they forget how the process works (by the way they're mostly managers, so chances are they don't even know how it actually works), and they keep telling you you're doing it wrong even when you're not. When you'll show them a finished project (YOUR finished project), they will be flattered you "followed their instructions to make it look exactly like what they had in mind", even if you didn't. Just learn a few tricks, young Houdini...
i disagree strongly assholes must be put in jail and have all power stripped from them. the whole dealing with it part is bs you should be able to fire bad bosses and jerk like people in power.
in my experience bad teachers are the best teachers, you remember a bad experience 100x better then you remember something good, Therefore you will keep what you learn for much longer.
Take it like a man. And deal with it is all I can tell ya, Just look towards the end, so when you get there you can be like, I dont fucking care now I already got my shit, then laugh at teh freshmens faces... because thier shit is just starting.
You realise that teachers are on your side, right?
Your grades are their grades. Teachers are graded based on their pupil's progress. A shit student who starts getting good grades is good for the teacher. A good pupil who starts getting bad grades gives the teacher a bad grade too.
Long story short, that 53% mark isn't just your bad grade, but your teacher's bad grade. You probably deserved it.
Then so did the teacher... If one of his best students got a bad grade, you can assume the teacher is not good enough to teach properly. From what I know about universities, I remember my teacher in economics just kept giving good grades to anyone writing down what he taught us word by word during the exams. We even put him to the test by cheating and having our books open during the tests, and it worked. There is no point in that and we all complained about it at the time, he was unable to give us an answer. My point is some teachers just suck, their teaching methods are lame, and if the students fail it's not always about the student. Still, you will have to do with it because he won't get fired so easily. You on the other hand, can suffer pretty badly from low grades.
Teachers skill cannot be compared to what number students get from the course. Iv had shit teachers who give you a good number without any effort and teachers who actually require you to do stuff for you to pass the course...and needless to say the last example is the good teacher.
But no need to ramble about this...there are so many different teachers and students, but the fact remains that the my current school pretty much sucks hard. and propably other schools suck too..(I still got around 1year left so I suppose Ill finish it anyway)
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my IT teacher gave me a rediculously low grade (5.3/10) for a practical which, in my eyes, was just fine. Not to mention the fact that I am the best in class
its really rediculous that someone that's the best in class can get worse grades than someone who just tags along with his fellow classmates (we work in groups) as my group mate did get a 6.3/10
so I sent an email to my teacher saying he's a big pile of shit and I hope they fire him (they should never even have hired him in the first place in my eyes, every teacher agrees that he's a terrible teacher, instead of teaching us he refers us to websites and I have personally learned more from tutorials than from his. also, he can't solve problems that occour to your scripts (he doesn't even understand the basic table-html scripts).
so now I'm in big trouble. somehow this teacher hates me (well why'd that be?)
not sure if this is appropriate but hence its an off-topic topic so...
anyway any thoughts? You guys know that you love getting involved in these kind of posts!
ps skyrim is awesome
You are doing it wrong. You take it to the higher-ups if the teacher is favoruring other students or has not got the qualifications to be a teacher, thats the best you can do. If everyone in the class would meet up with the higher ups to talk about it, there is a slight chance they might re-assign him to different duties or just fire/not make new contract with him. In worst case cenario you could do something like not going to his class at all (if you get your whole class in the idea, but I dont think its easy to go that far...)
And well...grades dont really mean that much? But if the teacher is being unfrair just because he doesnt like you, you should definetly try to contact someone about this...you could even try to talk with the teacher first to find out why did you get what you got. But insulting wont solve anything in this case.
and oh yea...Iv had my share of fucking shithead teacher too...I did whine about that in some other thread already :(
Probably your reaction just made it worse. Now its impossible to go back. As Zenx1 said if the whole class has the same view about the teacher its possible to do something about it. Once I was in a Molecular Biology class and we managed to save ourselves from the grades the teacher had given us and he didn't come back for the next year. I still don't understand it as much as I should, but at least other students didn't have to attend class with such a terrible teacher.
have done so, but there's obviously a shortage of money/decent teachers because they have been getting complaints for over 2 years about this guy and they haven't changed a thing about it
'pissed off' would have been a better title on second thought
If it's one or two complains every year they aren't going to do anything. School's get complaints about teachers all the time. You either have to get practically all his students to complain or say the teacher raped some kid, but now a days they are getting out even for that. You could also try saying he has drugs in the class and plant them in there.
@Keyeszx: Go
hahaha pretty dark minds we have here :D
I like your thinking :D
You have no idea how well I understand your position. Prepare for a big rant somewhere in the upcoming days, when I've got time to spit out the situation I'm in. Precisely this is the reason why I spent two years at home after finishing high school. School screws up, creates shit for you when all you want to do is get a damn paper, and the only way to fix it is to create even more shit yourself.
Solution to your problems:
1. Quit current education.
2. Start education as teacher.
3. Finish education as teacher.
4. Get a job where annoying teacher's kids go to school.
5. Fuck their lifes up.
6. Enjoy sweet revenge
...Nuff said. I do understand your situation, though. It's annoying as hell when you feel unnoticed or estimated wrongly. Sometimes, it's good to have a reasonable chat with your teacher about it - that solved my problems... Now it's too late though, I guess.
Wall of text time!
Right, so - my situation.
I started a course in History in Uni in August. At a city that's about 2 hours travel time away (door to door), meaning I spend about 4 hours a day traveling whenever I have to go there.
It started off with my timetable: I have 12 hours of contact, which could be fit into a grand total of 2 days in an optimal situation (6 hours of college per day, meaning if we'd start at our earliest (8:45, meaning I'd have to get up at 6), we'd be done around 16:00 and I'd be home by 18:00. Those would be fairly rough days, but hey, it'd be 2 days a week; I'd be free for the other 3 days.
Now what happened was that instead of going anywhere near the optimal setup, they gave me the worst setup possible. That is to say I've got to get up at 6, follow a college, have five hours off and then follow a second college (and get back home at 19:30) on both monday and wednesday. On tuesdays, thursdays and fridays I've got a grand total of 1 hour of college, meaning that three days of my week I spend more time traveling than actually having college. I later found out that this ridiculous timetable was done this way on purpose, because the teachers wanted students to 'know what a week's worth of study meant' (keep in mind we're talking about 19-25 year olds here who all have either decent sidejobs or have even already completed a pre-university study). And then I'm not even mentioning the fact that I used to be in a contact group that had slightly better hours (no 5 hours off on wednesday, at least) but got transferred at random because there were too many students in my contact group.
But hey, forget the timetables: lets delve into the two subjects I spent my first period on. That would be something called "Historical Practice" and "The ancient world" (Archaic/Classical Rome & Greece).
For the first course in that line, the course goes like this: lectures (where you sit and take notes) are once a week, and you're obliged to come. Out of the 8 lectures I've had so far, 1 actually did something for my grade (we had to make a summary of the college and that got graded), 2 were actually interesting (and that includes the one I had to summarize) and all 6 others were both boring as hell and useless in terms of grading - none of the stuff we heard in there is ever going to come back to me.
As for seminars, we have these instead of lectures every two weeks. Our 'teacher' is someone who himself is (I think) in the last year of the History course at my uni. He's a total moron. Aside from the fact that nothing he does actually helps us in any way (he brings up our answers on a powerpoint and tells us whether they are wrong or correct, without even saying why), I shall illustrate this by giving two examples:
1) We use an online system, Blackboard, to turn in our assignments. This guy doesn't like to inspect our work on a PC, so he's forcing us to print all our assignments as well and turn them in on paper. And he's forcing us to print them again so we have our own work with us when we're at a seminar. When one of my groupmates asked him if he couldn't simply hand us back the assignments we turned in earlier during the seminars so we wouldn't have to print them twice, his response was literally (and I quote) that "you do gain benefit from him double checking your answers". He dodged the entire question. Speaking of dodging;
2) Last seminar he told us that we really should've turned a specific assignment in on paper in a specific way. One of my groupmates said that we had no idea we were supposed to do that. He said he sent an e-mail about it. Since I've got my laptop with me during these colleges, I checked my mailbox and said we never got any such e-mail. The guy just repeated his earlier line ("I sent you guys an e-mail about it") and then went on to talk about a different subject. My groupmate and me looked at eachother, shrugged, and continued staring out of the window.
Now I partake in a specific group that attempts to make uni courses better by registering complaints and passing them on. People from all different workgroups in my study are in here. ALL of them said that their Historical Practice teacher was a bad one, the course was set up in a really terrible fashion and that nobody knew what to do half the time (there's a lot more to this; stuff like the lead organizer for this course setting up group assignments during our week off when nobody's actually present at the uni and everybody's at home learning for his exams next week). Funnily enough, the guy running this course also runs the course of 'Medieval Studies' that I've just started now that I'm in my second semester. Which, so far, is also a complete mess (a wall of non-important obligatory assignments bigger than this text)
But to go back to "The ancient world", the second course I spent my first semester on: this one was actually well organized and fun. I was the top student in my class when it comes to seminars; I made the most (and best) points in our discussions, turned in all assignments days before they were due and just got complimented all-round for my work. In terms of lectures, I skipped one out of about 25. A friend of mine skipped about 5 or 6. When the exam was coming up, I spent a week studying and created a summary in the form of a highly detailed timeline, complete with colour codes and all important events in a specific period of time. That same friend spent the week on holiday to England, and all he did was read through a summary of our book once. He got a 6 for his exam, I got a 5. I won't know why until next week wednesday.
But Mozared, I hear you think; if all of this stuff sucks so badly, why aren't you complaining to your uni? There should be people who can fix this stuff for you, right? Correct, and that brings me to my point. There's a 'study-advisor' who's job it is to do something about situations like these. But guess what: she's only reachable between 8 and 10 on tuesday and thursday. And guess when my lectures are on those days? You got it, 15:45 'till 17:30. Meaning that if I'd ever want to talk to her, I'd immediately have a week where three of my days were of the "get up at 6, follow a lecture, somehow spent five hours keeping myself busy there, follow a second lecture and get home at 19:30" kind.
So yeah, long story short: I too am in a situation where school and its teachers are screwing a lot of stuff up for me while I'm trying to keep my head above the water. The only way for me to fix this is to have an even heavier week and give up even more free time. Not to mention the irony that is obligatory lectures that do absolutely nothing for your grade, and non-obligatory study stuff that actually helps your grade; meaning that I'm now having to skip out the important stuff in order to do the useless stuff. Good luck with your situation, other than bailing out I'm not sure if there's a lot you can easily do to fix it. Writing an angry mail could possibly work, but you'd need someone who listens, and not the gay ass teacher who is the cause of your problems.
TL;DR.
Just kidding :)
Universities are a pain in the ass. There is more incentive to keep you there and make you spend more money than to help educate you. Think of it this way: You pay the university in dollars (or euros or whatever)... how do you quantify what you've learned? In other words, universities don't need to compete over intellectual output because it simply can't be measured with accuracy. As far as I can tell, most of them attempt to do this by flaunting about the "super star" geniuses that happened to go to their universities, which would have probably been geniuses anyway.
Everyone has problems with their university. You just gotta roll with the punches. In the end what you learn will be more helpful to you in the future than what your grades will be. Besides, when the zombie apocalypse comes, your GPA won't mean squat.
@BasharTeg: Go
crap I forgot about the zombie apocalyse o.O
maybe I can become necromancer and demand the zombies to eat my teacher and then command einstein to hack the school network and give me a 10
When I was in high school I smoked with my teachers. Well... two of them. One of them I saw buy from my friend, the other one I found out went to rehab because he accidentally told me when I was teaching him economics (he somehow became an econ teacher and didn't know anything about economics. So he gave me an A and I helped him with the next chapter after school. Once I got to teach the class because he forgot what how to do one of the equations). I had one horrible teacher though that was a psychopath (she got this weird nervous twitch when we annoyed her, and sometimes it would get really bad and she got these weird convulsions. Looked like she was having a seizure... she went apeshit on me once because I corrected something on her board. It was a huge ordeal too, there was an inquiry and everything. I got suspended for like five days...).
@Varine: Go
thats corrupt man... she shouldve gotten fired.
@Xtremedesyr: Go
shes evil i bet she deserved those curse words being pelted at her. seriously shes a punk for using the system to save her from falling further from grace... man. btw some teachers just deserve every bad word in the book... and a bunch of punches to their ugly face. i know this because one teacher i was with 8 or more years ago and one when i was reallty young. bullied me like hell. the one from 8 years ago was a snotty real world only person who didn't respect people's weaknesses or dreams. and as for the person(s) when i was younger they were evil. they treated me like an adult when i was like 4 years old... i mean wtf thats messed up man... so yea teachers like that in fact people like that who bully you for the littlest things need to be knocked into submission and have their power stripped from them... oh and btw on another related note i once saw someone who had a thread about "im done with girls" when i was looking something up... the girl mentioned deserved to be damned too... sorry if i ranted but i really hate such things. and yea i know hate is bad like poision but i have trouble with it.
I remember during my GD classes, we had a teacher that kept asking us to redo everything. We were tight on schedule already (mostly because our previous project led to nowhere, so we had to switch to another... we basically lost 4 months out of 10 available), and this teacher kept making us lose more time by saying "I don't like the color you used here, do it again" and bla bla bla...
At first we listened to her, we lost something like 2 more months. And then we decided we shouldn't listen to her anymore. We rushed things a bit and did the thing our own way, and 2 weeks before the official "release" of our projects she was like "wow I'm impressed, it's way better, you worked very hard". We didn't (...that much). She just BELIEVED we did because we kept her away as much as we could...
So basically, if a teacher is always on your back complaining about what you do, just say YES SIR, do as he asked, then replace the whole thing with what you wanted in the end. If you can't stand a teacher watching over your shoulder though, I dare to say you'll have serious issues when your boss will tell you "hey guy, you work like shit, do it better or I'll fire you"... It sucks, but sometimes your boss/teacher can be a real asshole and you just have to make him think he's in charge. Don't listen to them that much, sometimes they're just so focused on the results that they forget how the process works (by the way they're mostly managers, so chances are they don't even know how it actually works), and they keep telling you you're doing it wrong even when you're not. When you'll show them a finished project (YOUR finished project), they will be flattered you "followed their instructions to make it look exactly like what they had in mind", even if you didn't. Just learn a few tricks, young Houdini...
@ZealNaga: Go
i disagree strongly assholes must be put in jail and have all power stripped from them. the whole dealing with it part is bs you should be able to fire bad bosses and jerk like people in power.
in my experience bad teachers are the best teachers, you remember a bad experience 100x better then you remember something good, Therefore you will keep what you learn for much longer.
Take it like a man. And deal with it is all I can tell ya, Just look towards the end, so when you get there you can be like, I dont fucking care now I already got my shit, then laugh at teh freshmens faces... because thier shit is just starting.
You realise that teachers are on your side, right?
Your grades are their grades. Teachers are graded based on their pupil's progress. A shit student who starts getting good grades is good for the teacher. A good pupil who starts getting bad grades gives the teacher a bad grade too.
Long story short, that 53% mark isn't just your bad grade, but your teacher's bad grade. You probably deserved it.
Then so did the teacher... If one of his best students got a bad grade, you can assume the teacher is not good enough to teach properly. From what I know about universities, I remember my teacher in economics just kept giving good grades to anyone writing down what he taught us word by word during the exams. We even put him to the test by cheating and having our books open during the tests, and it worked. There is no point in that and we all complained about it at the time, he was unable to give us an answer. My point is some teachers just suck, their teaching methods are lame, and if the students fail it's not always about the student. Still, you will have to do with it because he won't get fired so easily. You on the other hand, can suffer pretty badly from low grades.
@Eiviyn: Go
cmon...really? :(
Teachers skill cannot be compared to what number students get from the course. Iv had shit teachers who give you a good number without any effort and teachers who actually require you to do stuff for you to pass the course...and needless to say the last example is the good teacher.
But no need to ramble about this...there are so many different teachers and students, but the fact remains that the my current school pretty much sucks hard. and propably other schools suck too..(I still got around 1year left so I suppose Ill finish it anyway)