but as what was alreayd said them spotlighitng their maps...does nothing to hurt your maps.. nothing
Not right now. wait til Blizzard has 20 maps. Page 1 and Page 2 is full of their maps. Should I wait and save my QQ till that happened?
I don't actually care man. Making maps or not I don't care... I have a decent profession and I don't need making maps to boost resume. I don't care and I'll shut up. I guess QQ-ing is very restricted in this forum
And Why can't I delete my own conversation? I apologize for overcrowding this thread and for wasting you guys time with my pointless arguments... and sorry for being a whiny bitch. I'll be a man next time
They also Featured them...
except their maps DO have a category, while others still don't (you can only see them with the ALL filter).
If any of you ever wondered why it's so hard to play Featured maps, it's because they aren't listed elsewhere.
Doesn't bother me honestly, they can stick them there for months, page 3+ maps won't be affected.
As long as they understand the reason they had to...
but as what was alreayd said them spotlighitng their maps...does nothing
to hurt your maps.. nothing
It DOES. It does not only show that nothing can beat the popularity system (because an overly advertised map could only be popular by being featured outside the featured tab) but also shows that they don't need to fix the system anymore because they got what they want (their maps popular).
It's pretty much like:
"Blizzard, will you fix the popularity system to make ur maps popular?"
"I don't need to fix anymore, I found a way to make them popular without fixing the system"
How does that not hurt?
FEATURED MAPS SHOULD BE IN THE FEATURED TAB. What's the point of a featured tab then?
It DOES. It does not only show that nothing can beat the popularity system (because an overly advertised map could only be popular by being featured outside the featured tab) but also shows that they don't need to fix the system anymore because they got what they want (their maps popular).
It's pretty much like:
"Blizzard, will you fix the popularity system to make ur maps popular?"
"I don't need to fix anymore, I found a way to make them popular without fixing the system"
How does that not hurt?
FEATURED MAPS SHOULD BE IN THE FEATURED TAB. What's the point of a featured tab then?
what.... im sorry rod, you know I like you.. and I dont mean this in a "bad" way.. but I think people that say that are such idiots... blizzard knooows its not perfect, them putting them in the spotlight BY NO MEANS even "kinda sorta" means they think the system is ok... they have said many times in posts they know its not perfect... so..no...thats not what that means it simply means they want to show off the maps they paid to make.
Well, the mods around here can do what they like, they created the website, they run it, they remove what they don't like. Blizzard is the same way, but on a much grander scale. They created starcraft 2, they run it, they remove what they don't like. The only real difference is that they are cheating the system they created. That would be like a mod being a hypocrite and deciding to post some inappropriate pictures or something.
Well, the mods around here can do what they like, they created the website, they run it, they remove what they don't like. Blizzard is the same way, but on a much grander scale. They created starcraft 2, they run it, they remove what they don't like. The only real difference is that they are cheating the system they created. That would be like a mod being a hypocrite and deciding to post some inappropriate pictures or something.
My QQ is because Blizzard keeps saying that they support the community but it looks like they want to compete against the community now...
As of now, booking 3 slots wouldn't be any problem, like Molster said. However, I fear that when Blizz have 10 maps, the 1st page all be Blizzard's maps... Is that what they are planning to do? boycotting 1st page?
Seriously Rodrigo, I tire of your constant complaints.
You are reading faar to into this. In fact my first assumption is that they bumped them up because they are still trying to develop them and are lacking in feedback. Obviously they aren't going to be doing the same with more than say four maps. It's like you just go around looking for fights.
The most overhyped maps on B.Net fell down to page XX and died in a matter of days.
So much for "you just need to advertise your maps" uh Blizzard? :P
But yeah, they DO know how frustrating their system can be now. And that's good.
Seriously Rodrigo, I tire of your constant complaints.
You are reading faar to into this. In fact my first assumption is that
they bumped them up because they are still trying to develop them and
are lacking in feedback. Obviously they aren't going to be doing the
same with more than say four maps. It's like you just go around looking
for fights.
Also I concur with Molsterr.
Oh, so they are allowed to bump maps that are lacking feedback? I know plenty of maps 1000 times better that are lacking feedback and they are in much lower popularity than Blizzard maps were.
It's like we are in the middle of a blizzard freezing in cold, and Blizzard joins us saying that they want to understand our point of view, but suddenly they turn on a heater just for themselves. Excellent way to understand what we feel.
I don't understand what the problem is. Their maps are fun, bug free, and balanced unlike most player made maps (For example, SotIS). Unfortunately, without doing this, their maps would never pop up because all people want to play is SotIS, Marine arena, etc. Doing this gets the maps they made for us (at no extra cost, which was definitely a possibility at one point!) up to the top where people are more likely to play them.
Yes, I get theres a "sort by blizz" option, but has anyone used it? Not really, people only want to play whats on
the popular list because nobody wants to host a game and wait 3 hours for people to join it.
EDIT: I should also add that blizzard spent money making these maps. They have to pay for the work their employees do when they create stuff like this. I don't think anyone putting out custom maps hires people to make maps for SC2 and pays them. Or rather, I don't think anyone's job title is "Map maker for user x". On this principle alone, its enough to allow them to put their maps where they'll get played - on top of the popular list.
i swear to go i havn't posted here in so long but this topic just made me wanna post again.....
Fucken hell Rodrigo get over your self every bloody week you have a new post about Blizzard doing some think wrong and not rite i yet to see you say any think about the fact that they are trying..... if its not the custom map system its bitching about your maps not getting to the top of the list OMG
get over it man... games do not get fixed over nigh.... give it time, it is not easy to fix a game system
if you don't like it don't use it, its your life you don't like it do some think different mod UT3,
for crying out loud your like a kid man my mates son don't cry about as much shit as you do
Oh, so they are allowed to bump maps that are lacking feedback? I know plenty of maps 1000 times better that are lacking feedback and they are in much lower popularity than Blizzard maps were.
It's like we are in the middle of a blizzard freezing in cold, and Blizzard joins us saying that they want to understand our point of view, but suddenly they turn on a heater just for themselves. Excellent way to understand what we feel.
That wasn't my point. And yes, as has been stated they can do what they like, though we may not like it. Additionally, I disagree about the quality of these maps, they may not be the best maps out there, but they are up there with the best of them.
However from what you just said, clearly you are just using this as another excuse to complain about the Popularity System. Everyone, EVERYONE! is aware of the problems, and I am sure many of them are as sick as me of hear about it.
Why can't we hear about the maps you are working on, or what you have learned while using the editor, or your ideas for future maps, instead of this constant whining? Stop antagonizing Blizzard for no good reason, and lets get back to what we are here for. Creating games.
If you think Blizzard is cheating the system by putting a couple of thier maps they made for mentally handicapped robots at the top of the lists is cheating, you must need to be mentally retarded.
Blizzard not for one minute ever expected those fail attempts at ums to ever get played. They put them on top to show what heaving modded customs can be like as a sample to the cassual player.
If you become personally offended by thier placement ie " they are cheating !!!! booo whooo" then you good sirs need to take a break from modding for a bit and get laid.
from what i would imagine, they're prolly doing this to test to see if featuring maps on the front page makes any difference. becuase them telling everyone their doing this would completly void the experiment. sadly though these maps take up 3 valuable slots on the top page that every map maker strives for.
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Not right now. wait til Blizzard has 20 maps. Page 1 and Page 2 is full of their maps. Should I wait and save my QQ till that happened?
I don't actually care man. Making maps or not I don't care... I have a decent profession and I don't need making maps to boost resume. I don't care and I'll shut up. I guess QQ-ing is very restricted in this forum
And Why can't I delete my own conversation? I apologize for overcrowding this thread and for wasting you guys time with my pointless arguments... and sorry for being a whiny bitch. I'll be a man next time
They also Featured them...
except their maps DO have a category, while others still don't (you can only see them with the ALL filter).
If any of you ever wondered why it's so hard to play Featured maps, it's because they aren't listed elsewhere.
Doesn't bother me honestly, they can stick them there for months, page 3+ maps won't be affected.
As long as they understand the reason they had to...
Lmao...I think that's hilariousthat they even have to cheat
I love how under population it says "BLIZZARD"
Pretty much saying f*ck all your other mappers that dont work at Blizzard lol
It DOES. It does not only show that nothing can beat the popularity system (because an overly advertised map could only be popular by being featured outside the featured tab) but also shows that they don't need to fix the system anymore because they got what they want (their maps popular).
It's pretty much like:
"Blizzard, will you fix the popularity system to make ur maps popular?"
"I don't need to fix anymore, I found a way to make them popular without fixing the system"
How does that not hurt?
FEATURED MAPS SHOULD BE IN THE FEATURED TAB. What's the point of a featured tab then?
what.... im sorry rod, you know I like you.. and I dont mean this in a "bad" way.. but I think people that say that are such idiots... blizzard knooows its not perfect, them putting them in the spotlight BY NO MEANS even "kinda sorta" means they think the system is ok... they have said many times in posts they know its not perfect... so..no...thats not what that means it simply means they want to show off the maps they paid to make.
I hate to say it, but Rodrigo is right. This is just sad. As if there weren't already too many terrible maps on the first page.
Well, the mods around here can do what they like, they created the website, they run it, they remove what they don't like. Blizzard is the same way, but on a much grander scale. They created starcraft 2, they run it, they remove what they don't like. The only real difference is that they are cheating the system they created. That would be like a mod being a hypocrite and deciding to post some inappropriate pictures or something.
My QQ is because Blizzard keeps saying that they support the community but it looks like they want to compete against the community now...
As of now, booking 3 slots wouldn't be any problem, like Molster said. However, I fear that when Blizz have 10 maps, the 1st page all be Blizzard's maps... Is that what they are planning to do? boycotting 1st page?
Seriously Rodrigo, I tire of your constant complaints.
You are reading faar to into this. In fact my first assumption is that they bumped them up because they are still trying to develop them and are lacking in feedback. Obviously they aren't going to be doing the same with more than say four maps. It's like you just go around looking for fights.
Also I concur with Molsterr.
The most overhyped maps on B.Net fell down to page XX and died in a matter of days.
So much for "you just need to advertise your maps" uh Blizzard? :P
But yeah, they DO know how frustrating their system can be now. And that's good.
Oh, so they are allowed to bump maps that are lacking feedback? I know plenty of maps 1000 times better that are lacking feedback and they are in much lower popularity than Blizzard maps were.
It's like we are in the middle of a blizzard freezing in cold, and Blizzard joins us saying that they want to understand our point of view, but suddenly they turn on a heater just for themselves. Excellent way to understand what we feel.
They should just add another button there that says blizzard and presto!
Whatever you do, wholeheartedly, moment by heartfelt moment, becomes a tool for the expression of your very soul.
or scrap it all together :P
I don't understand what the problem is. Their maps are fun, bug free, and balanced unlike most player made maps (For example, SotIS). Unfortunately, without doing this, their maps would never pop up because all people want to play is SotIS, Marine arena, etc. Doing this gets the maps they made for us (at no extra cost, which was definitely a possibility at one point!) up to the top where people are more likely to play them.
Yes, I get theres a "sort by blizz" option, but has anyone used it? Not really, people only want to play whats on the popular list because nobody wants to host a game and wait 3 hours for people to join it.
EDIT: I should also add that blizzard spent money making these maps. They have to pay for the work their employees do when they create stuff like this. I don't think anyone putting out custom maps hires people to make maps for SC2 and pays them. Or rather, I don't think anyone's job title is "Map maker for user x". On this principle alone, its enough to allow them to put their maps where they'll get played - on top of the popular list.
i swear to go i havn't posted here in so long but this topic just made me wanna post again.....
Fucken hell Rodrigo get over your self every bloody week you have a new post about Blizzard doing some think wrong and not rite i yet to see you say any think about the fact that they are trying..... if its not the custom map system its bitching about your maps not getting to the top of the list OMG
get over it man... games do not get fixed over nigh.... give it time, it is not easy to fix a game system
if you don't like it don't use it, its your life you don't like it do some think different mod UT3,
for crying out loud your like a kid man my mates son don't cry about as much shit as you do
please grow up and get over it.......
That wasn't my point. And yes, as has been stated they can do what they like, though we may not like it. Additionally, I disagree about the quality of these maps, they may not be the best maps out there, but they are up there with the best of them.
However from what you just said, clearly you are just using this as another excuse to complain about the Popularity System. Everyone, EVERYONE! is aware of the problems, and I am sure many of them are as sick as me of hear about it.
Why can't we hear about the maps you are working on, or what you have learned while using the editor, or your ideas for future maps, instead of this constant whining? Stop antagonizing Blizzard for no good reason, and lets get back to what we are here for. Creating games.
If you think Blizzard is cheating the system by putting a couple of thier maps they made for mentally handicapped robots at the top of the lists is cheating, you must need to be mentally retarded.
Blizzard not for one minute ever expected those fail attempts at ums to ever get played. They put them on top to show what heaving modded customs can be like as a sample to the cassual player.
If you become personally offended by thier placement ie " they are cheating !!!! booo whooo" then you good sirs need to take a break from modding for a bit and get laid.
from what i would imagine, they're prolly doing this to test to see if featuring maps on the front page makes any difference. becuase them telling everyone their doing this would completly void the experiment. sadly though these maps take up 3 valuable slots on the top page that every map maker strives for.