SC2Mapster

I've been trying to think of a project to work on and had the idea to try making (as close to) a copy of the original Super Mario Bros for NES (as i can).  So this is gonna be a thread for questions for making this.

Firstly:  Is there a way to only let units move on 2 axes? (sp)  I won't need units to move depth whatsoever

PS.  If anyone is working on a game and could use some help, feel free to PM me.  I'm mostly wanting to trigger things to learn how to set up codes for different things

Got it, that helps a lot.  Next question:  Is there a way to make the game gridded?  For example, the pokemon games were played on a grid (in the world at least, not in pokemon battles) and so is Super Mario Bros

I've been using SnapToGrid and showing the grid as a guideline when using the terrain editor, but I don't know if there's a better way

Hmm.. I disagree with zelda. Gigantic region arrays can be easily created with triggers. If you want, PM me and I can show you how to set it up.

I currently use a 23x41 square-grid system for a turn-based strategy game. You would be amazed how fast the editor can iterate through a size 943 array.

This is the sort of map the SC2 engine 100% cannot run in a high quality manner. But if you really want to make it have fun.

Why not make this sort of game in flash?

No idea how to use flash :)  Nor do I want to bother learning..

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Got it, that helps a lot.Next question:Is there a way to make the game gridded?For example, the pokemon games were played on a grid (in the world at least, not in pokemon battles) and so is Super Mario Bros

I've been using SnapToGrid and showing the grid as a guideline when using the terrain editor, but I don't know if there's a better way

building footprints anyone?

okay so instead of a mario game, i ended up working on a pokemon (yellow version) replica.  So question for that:  Is there any way to set it so that when I stop moving the player's unit, he's in one of the grid squares?  That would make things much easier i believe

another question:  What's the best way to set up triggering a battle?  I can set a boolean PlayerIsInGrass true/false when he enters/leaves a region with grass, but i couldn't find a way to say while unit != idle or something like that.  Is there a way to say "When unit steps on another grid in region" or something with the grass Doodads maybe?

bump.  Can't do too much more until I get/figure out those 2 things

There's already a Pokemon project around: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/16942-pokemon-style-game-with-sc2-units-full-banking/#posts although I'm not sure if it's still active.

You could get some inspiration from that ;).

The project that Lonami linked is still very much alive. The progress he has made is pretty awesome.

i saw that.  You cant get that map (afaik) on the site, and i asked the same question about triggering battles in that thread.  I know it's a lot of work, but as mentioned earlier, it's for fun.  And i'm not asking what triggers to make the battle system with, i mean how do i trigger it to TRIGGER a battle WHEN RUNNING IN GRASS :)  In the games it seems like "each time the player steps on a new point on the grid in a grass region, give a # percent chance to trigger a battle"

@ctccromer: Go

What I do isn't pretty, but it's fast.

I have a bazillion regions on my map, and two triggers for each. When a play enters a region, I mark the region they are in. When they leave, I unmark it only if it's the same one he's currently marked as being in. This handles over lapping regions.

Then I have a timer that runs every few seconds. I check for a random between 1 and 3 being 1 (for example), and I check that the player is in the grass.

The alternative method, checking every few seconds to see if the player was in a grass region, was very slow. Unit in Region isn't particularly fast, especially when you have a lot of them. It can be a pain setting up all those triggers, but it really goes by pretty fast, it's just a lot of copy and paste.

Have a seperate action definition for HeroEntersRegion(int RegionNumber) and HeroLeavesRegion(int RegionNumber), so your triggers are only 1 line long. That way, if you make changes later, you need only change it in one place.

that sounds a lot like how i had it set up, but I don't quite understand what you mean about the timer.  I set up 2 triggers for each region as well (set PlayerInGrass = true/false) and then i have
Events
     Timer - Every (Random real between 2.0 and 18.0) seconds of Game Time
Conditions
     PlayerInGrass = True
     (Idle Units for Player 1) != (Unit Group (PlayerUnit))
Action
     [Whatever I'll put to start a battle]

Is that what you meant by the timer, and is there a better way to only run the trigger when PlayerUnit is moving?

EDIT: the Idle condition doesn't work, nor does (Idle Units for Player 1) == No Unit Group.  How else can I only run the trigger with him running?  There's gotta be a simpler way than setting a boolean

@ctccromer: Go

I use "Unit in Unit Group" ( "Idle Units for Player" ) == false. That's how I check if a unit is moving or not.

Here's the whole trigger actually:

Random Encounters
    Events
        Timer - Every 3.0 seconds of Game Time
    Local Variables
        iPlayer = 0 <Integer>
        Region = 0 <Integer>
        Hero = No Unit <Unit>
        Combat Instance = 0 <Integer>
    Conditions
    Actions
        Player Group - For each player iPlayer in (Active Players) do (Actions)
            Actions
                Variable - Set Hero = Player Data[iPlayer].Hero
                Variable - Set Combat Instance = Player Data[iPlayer].Combat Instance
                Variable - Set Region = Player Data[iPlayer].Encounter Region
                General - If (Conditions) then do (Actions) else do (Actions)
                    If
                        And
                            Conditions
                                (Random integer between 1 and 3) == 1
                                Combat Instance < 0
                                (Hero is in (Idle Units for player iPlayer)) == false
                                Region != -1
                    Then
                        Generate Random Encounter(iPlayer, Region)
                    Else

As you see, I also check no make sure they're not already in combat, as well.