Nobody seems to care all that much.. All of my mods are messed up in ways i have no clue how to fix. I assumed there was a way to restore our mods, but i can't seem to find it.. Anyone know how to get our maps working again? Or do we just wait for a newer patch to fix them themselves? Surely all my weeks of hard work hasn't gone to waste... right?...
PS: Didn't they say we wouldn't have to worry about stuff like this happening when ever there's a new patch?
There are specific things which do not work, and almost all of them have causes pertaining to data paths being renamed, or data fields being optimized for more intuitive use. They are easily fixable if you know what you are looking for. I think the exception to this is the camera bug.
If you could be more specific than "all of my mods are messed up", people might be able to help you.
My nuke ability no longer works, nothing special about it, its just a normal nuke, no data changed.
It used to work, it now no longer does, I can build the nuke fine, but when I launch it, it doesn't do anything, the nuke button just stays highlighted as if its being channeled, but no nuke is launched, and no nuke lands.
There are specific things which do not work, and almost all of them have causes pertaining to data paths being renamed, or data fields being optimized for more intuitive use. They are easily fixable if you know what you are looking for. I think the exception to this is the camera bug.
If you could be more specific than "all of my mods are messed up", people might be able to help you.
Well i do not want to redo everything, that's not an option, i've spent way to much time on it. Besides half my data disappearing, (missing abilities, reset stats, etc.) my maps are also getting some strange bugs that i can see how in any way they're related to the data editor. For example, some units won't attack their own units/buildings when commanded, but some other will do it just fine. If the selected unit is orderd to attack his own building, it'll just click right through it like the building wasn't there (as a walk and attack action).
What I'm asking is for the people who have lost a massive amount of data, how do we get it back without redoing it manually?
Trolling? Here? I thought I was on SC2Mapster. I'm sure that there are a lot of people affected by this but not everyone has the same amount of work done on a project as someone who does.
I feel for you, LeetBox. I've got a total conversion mod that I was working on (check my Projects) and had a good amount of it completed. I had devoted every waking hour of my free time into it for 2 weeks. This latest patch broke nearly everything in my mod, undoing a good 200 hours of work, and I just don't feel motivated to go back and do it all again alone.
I'm feeling pretty smashed about it, I don't know if I'll ever feel the drive I used to have to complete the project. I just can't get that feeling back when I know that every patch that looms on the horizon is going to break something. This patch has been by far the worst, probably the worst it's ever going to get, to say the least. But, knowing that, I still can't pick myself back up and work on it. I might just settle for something less ambitious and simpler that a stupid patch isn't going to render totally useless.
As far as I know, there is no way to get this data back. You have to edit it again yourself. Nonetheless, I'll just leave my mod alone and hope it fixes itself through a patch. If it doesn't, it's screwed.
Trolling? Here? I thought I was on SC2Mapster. I'm sure that there are a lot of people affected by this but not everyone has the same amount of work done on a project as someone who does.
I feel for you, LeetBox. I've got a total conversion mod that I was working on (check my Projects) and had a good amount of it completed. I had devoted every waking hour of my free time into it for 2 weeks. This latest patch broke nearly everything in my mod, undoing a good 200 hours of work, and I just don't feel motivated to go back and do it all again alone.
I'm feeling pretty smashed about it, I don't know if I'll ever feel the drive I used to have to complete the project. I just can't get that feeling back when I know that every patch that looms on the horizon is going to break something. This patch has been by far the worst, probably the worst it's ever going to get, to say the least. But, knowing that, I still can't pick myself back up and work on it. I might just settle for something less ambitious and simpler that a stupid patch isn't going to render totally useless.
As far as I know, there is no way to get this data back. You have to edit it again yourself. Nonetheless, I'll just leave my mod alone and hope it fixes itself through a patch. If it doesn't, it's screwed.
Ugh yea thanks i feel exactly the same way -.-. Maybe there's a way to launch the maps with an older version of the editor? I think if that would work it would be a good first step..
But yeah it sucks losing so much work. I only risked it because they said they wouldn't let something like that happen, otherwise i wouldn't of invested so much time and effort into it :(.
Their promises don't really apply too explicity to the beta, if things like this happen when the retail version comes along it's a different story, ofc if something like the hashtable jumble, like in wc3 happens, then your maps may not be compatible at all, again.
Ugh yea thanks i feel exactly the same way -.-. Maybe there's a way to launch the maps with an older version of the editor? I think if that would work it would be a good first step..
But yeah it sucks losing so much work. I only risked it because they said they wouldn't let something like that happen, otherwise i wouldn't of invested so much time and effort into it :(.
Yeah, no kidding. It'll be a while before I bother making some huge mod again. I'm just going to make maps/campaigns with vanilla.
Their promises don't really apply too explicity to the beta, if things like this happen when the retail version comes along it's a different story, ofc if something like the hashtable jumble, like in wc3 happens, then your maps may not be compatible at all, again.
Yea that makes sense but to my understanding the beta wasn't suppose to mess anything up either.. Otherwise i would've waited.. It's just that i predicted this would happen -.-
Oh well.. I guess i'll just hold off modding until they can get their patches under control.
Who cares, I just want good final product. This is beta. Beta is not retail release.
Its just for testing... Lets just spam with all editor bugs and features we want, so hopefully we can get them on release.
Like tigerija said, it's the Beta, all of your stuff probably won't be compatible (or at least they won't have some of the same data) with the full version of the editor anyways (until someone creates a converter or something like that) so you'd best not work on all of your OMG MOST EPIC MAP EVAR maps just yet.
Just game developement... not always smooth, though i will admit having no communication channels open with blizzard is a bit annoying but to be expected...
Here's hoping official art export tools come out soon.
everyone whos crying because their BETA maps dont work anymore are a bit naive.
do you really think they wont change smth about the editor and its mechanics during the beta? you should use the beta to practice and get used to the editor, but not for serious mapping work.
everyone whos crying because their BETA maps dont work anymore are a bit naive.
do you really think they wont change smth about the editor and its mechanics during the beta? you should use the beta to practice and get used to the editor, but not for serious mapping work.
Exactly.
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Nobody seems to care all that much.. All of my mods are messed up in ways i have no clue how to fix. I assumed there was a way to restore our mods, but i can't seem to find it.. Anyone know how to get our maps working again? Or do we just wait for a newer patch to fix them themselves? Surely all my weeks of hard work hasn't gone to waste... right?...
PS: Didn't they say we wouldn't have to worry about stuff like this happening when ever there's a new patch?
Yes they did.
So?
So they lied.
Surprised? really?
@LeetBox: Go
There are specific things which do not work, and almost all of them have causes pertaining to data paths being renamed, or data fields being optimized for more intuitive use. They are easily fixable if you know what you are looking for. I think the exception to this is the camera bug.
If you could be more specific than "all of my mods are messed up", people might be able to help you.
@Vexal: Go
My nuke ability no longer works, nothing special about it, its just a normal nuke, no data changed. It used to work, it now no longer does, I can build the nuke fine, but when I launch it, it doesn't do anything, the nuke button just stays highlighted as if its being channeled, but no nuke is launched, and no nuke lands.
No, but you asked. Why did you ask in the first place then? Actually don't answer that its okay.
@LeetBox: Go
My point from the beginning was, Its nothing new, blizzard always does this stuff.
@Vexal: Go
Well i do not want to redo everything, that's not an option, i've spent way to much time on it. Besides half my data disappearing, (missing abilities, reset stats, etc.) my maps are also getting some strange bugs that i can see how in any way they're related to the data editor. For example, some units won't attack their own units/buildings when commanded, but some other will do it just fine. If the selected unit is orderd to attack his own building, it'll just click right through it like the building wasn't there (as a walk and attack action).
What I'm asking is for the people who have lost a massive amount of data, how do we get it back without redoing it manually?
Trolling? Here? I thought I was on SC2Mapster. I'm sure that there are a lot of people affected by this but not everyone has the same amount of work done on a project as someone who does.
I feel for you, LeetBox. I've got a total conversion mod that I was working on (check my Projects) and had a good amount of it completed. I had devoted every waking hour of my free time into it for 2 weeks. This latest patch broke nearly everything in my mod, undoing a good 200 hours of work, and I just don't feel motivated to go back and do it all again alone.
I'm feeling pretty smashed about it, I don't know if I'll ever feel the drive I used to have to complete the project. I just can't get that feeling back when I know that every patch that looms on the horizon is going to break something. This patch has been by far the worst, probably the worst it's ever going to get, to say the least. But, knowing that, I still can't pick myself back up and work on it. I might just settle for something less ambitious and simpler that a stupid patch isn't going to render totally useless.
As far as I know, there is no way to get this data back. You have to edit it again yourself. Nonetheless, I'll just leave my mod alone and hope it fixes itself through a patch. If it doesn't, it's screwed.
Ugh yea thanks i feel exactly the same way -.-. Maybe there's a way to launch the maps with an older version of the editor? I think if that would work it would be a good first step..
But yeah it sucks losing so much work. I only risked it because they said they wouldn't let something like that happen, otherwise i wouldn't of invested so much time and effort into it :(.
Their promises don't really apply too explicity to the beta, if things like this happen when the retail version comes along it's a different story, ofc if something like the hashtable jumble, like in wc3 happens, then your maps may not be compatible at all, again.
Yeah, no kidding. It'll be a while before I bother making some huge mod again. I'm just going to make maps/campaigns with vanilla.
Yea that makes sense but to my understanding the beta wasn't suppose to mess anything up either.. Otherwise i would've waited.. It's just that i predicted this would happen -.-
Oh well.. I guess i'll just hold off modding until they can get their patches under control.
@38dedo: Go
The nuke effects have been renamed. Go to the nuke ability and other stuff, and make sure you have the appropriate persistent and detonate effects.
Who cares, I just want good final product. This is beta. Beta is not retail release.
Its just for testing... Lets just spam with all editor bugs and features we want, so hopefully we can get them on release.
Like tigerija said, it's the Beta, all of your stuff probably won't be compatible (or at least they won't have some of the same data) with the full version of the editor anyways (until someone creates a converter or something like that) so you'd best not work on all of your OMG MOST EPIC MAP EVAR maps just yet.
Just game developement... not always smooth, though i will admit having no communication channels open with blizzard is a bit annoying but to be expected...
Here's hoping official art export tools come out soon.
everyone whos crying because their BETA maps dont work anymore are a bit naive.
do you really think they wont change smth about the editor and its mechanics during the beta? you should use the beta to practice and get used to the editor, but not for serious mapping work.
Exactly.