The Talon Faction

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Assets for the Talon Faction, a Protoss conversion for all units and buildings as well as unique new models for utilization in Starcraft II.

This assets page will be updated with the latest iteration of the models as previously downloadable from WingedArchon Assets.

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dweebie
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Posted Feb 12, 2021
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Its probably a ways out from anything being done, because I'm working on a number of other projects that are much higher on my priority list, but Its gonna be a very micro focused character story that happens after the entire Sc2 storyline, where things went greatly ary give it more of a sc1 feel of everything is going wrong instead of the sc2 feeling of everything goes right.

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Posted Feb 12, 2021
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Sounds cool! Will definately take a look at whenever it arrives :)

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Posted Jan 1, 2021
Is there a reason why the Augmentor structure cannot accomplish "Stand _ Work" animation, over an animation play, bracket start or group apply? Your model seems to work, but for some reasons, I cannnot get it to look and remain "deployed" when it does that animation prop. The steam gets out as if it was doing it, but the borders (like the edges) stay closed. What's causing that?

Also, I can attest about the difference because my cutscene editor shows me a different animation than my actual unit actor does.

EDIT: I've been able to bug your model and get what I wanted, but that's not a conventional way of doing things that I like to use. I set an animation bracket start and I used the "Stand_Work_Start" as the Content animation, with the Non Looping flag. Yet it seems the steam gets out nicely and it remains opened, but auto-canceling my ability doesn't sync well both animations, so yea..

I also have an issue with Volchron. His animation Spell_A doesn't end (or at least takes a while). This seems to be a left over bug just like the Blightbringer model that doesn't resume when dying. Thing is, if I dare making my unit act another animation, the Spell_A resets on my unit everytime (because it's not finished). So I'm forced to use the flag: Don't reset on unhide.. but once again this is not optimal.

Edit2: Forgot to mention (still about Volchron), it is a bug I've notified on Blizzard forums, but I'm not sure about that one. On unit actors, you can modify the "Walk Speed Animation". This changes the scale at which the unit moves its legs. It does not work for Volchron, this field simply ignores it. However I am not sure if it's Blizz's fault, or the model's fault.

Thank you for reading.

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Posted Jan 5, 2021
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Hi there mate. Alright thank for letting me know about this.
I'll take a look at it to see what is going on. I'll come back to you with what I may find and wether it works as I have intended or that something has screwed it up.

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Posted Jan 9, 2021
In reply to Wonder_Rem:

I have checked the models and examined them compared to their base.

For the Augmentor the animations workability are equal to the Templar Archives ones.
When doing standard upgrading the Stand Work animation plays out as it should (looped until upg is finished)
I would reckon that the actor event that calls the Stand Work with play forever should work just fine (if you want console commands to trigger states)

Also, if you see difference between the cutscene model and actual structure, then I would recommend checking the actor for the structure.

The Volchron Spell A animation is indeed fairly long, it has about 75% of reverting to idle after the initial action. This however is no different from the Artanis model it is based on.

"This changes the scale at which the unit moves its legs. It does not work for Volchron, this field simply ignores it. However I am not sure if it's Blizz's fault, or the model's fault."
To my knowledge, this is not entirely true. the movement speed setting only changes the speed at which the model moves within the game metric, it does not affect model animation speeds. For instance, if a model has walking anmation set for 2,25 frequency, but the actor movement speed is set to 5, it will seem as if Volchron skates acros the field. (if memory serves)

As far as both models go, they work as intended, meaning based on the core model they were designed after and operable as such (Volchron --> Artanis / Augmentor --> Templar Archives) without more context of what presicely you're trying to do and how I can't see any issues that would be related directly to the models.

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Posted Jan 9, 2021
In reply to WingedArchon:

Alright thx for your check up. So I've retried my Augmentor again, and for some reasons, the animation works like a charm atm. I'll have to see if something else was bugging it in my actor's events. Weird part is, I did not change anything in my actor, so I presume I was just having a bad day. For the Volchron, here's a video link that should make it easier to understand what I meant.

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Posted Jan 10, 2021
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Hi there mate, Aboout the Augmentor, good that that has resolved itself (yeah the editor has its mysterious ways shall we say)
As for Volchron: Regarding the first part, I suppose you found a combination of several animation states which I simply hadn't accounted for (not planned)
answer: yeah I can add a version of the spell animation where the long 'go back to idle' is removed.
Regarding the walking: I understand what you meant and it is weird because I don't have that issue. The walk speed visible in the video after removal of that update thing is also very odd. I copied the Artanis actor for my hero 'Volkron' unit and I never had issues and as far as I can see it also doesn't use such movement update.
Not really sure if I can do much about this one.

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Posted Jan 10, 2021
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Thx much this far for taking the time!

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Posted Jan 21, 2021
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https://discord.com/channels/754972680372879483/755089643082612756
Uploaded a variant to Volchron with your requested animation.

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Posted Jan 24, 2021
In reply to WingedArchon:

Trying to find it, is it in Mapster Uploads? can't see it

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Posted Jan 25, 2021
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No, the link above points to the discord location where I saved it.
Because it isn't nesecarily a fix I haven't uploaded it here.

link: https://discord.com/channels/754972680372879483/801915620589305869

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Posted Jan 25, 2021
In reply to WingedArchon:

"Shy" ; I don't know how to use your link, it redirects me to Discord but then I don't know where to grab it :s

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Posted Jan 27, 2021
In reply to Wonder_Rem:

I decided to start a new section under the 'Requests' tab called minor model adjustments. I've added the volchron model as downloadable there. This way it should be accessible ;)

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Posted Jan 27, 2021
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Thanks a lot.. very sorry, I'm not the best of the west for such things xD

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Posted Jan 28, 2021
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No worries mate. We got it to work right ;)

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Posted Dec 30, 2021
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So I deceided to re-investigate the actor of my Volchron (for the Walk Speed Animation problem), it would seem the issue was on my end. In the events I tried playing with the running animation and something failed. Walk animation works fine (with days, I become better at pin pin pointing my mistakes).

I've also checked about the Augmentor animation and I found out how It was messing around with animations: The problem is that I use a testing tool and I use a train ability to put structures quickly on the map. That's problematic with protoss because the "Unpowered" animation conflicts with the actor (because it's created too fast) resulting in confused animations.

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Posted Oct 2, 2020
Even now, I love using these models. They're absolutely wonderful. Thanks for your hard work. :)

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Posted Dec 27, 2019
Can you make a talon skin for Alarak please?

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Posted Oct 15, 2019
Hey,

I just want to let you know we use your purple stuff for a map.

Gumba

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Posted Oct 15, 2019
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No problem. Which map if I might ask? :)

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