SC2Mapster

Great mod for the first thing! Got me addicted. Ive beaten it a couple times and with just two people at times. The best way is to create a maze that allows a lot of walking distance but also makes the monsters spend much time by the powerful units that you obtain. By the pattern of your maze, you can easily beat the game with just one other person. Best to have more players, but with 2 people, all you need is the middle and the bottom. Ive done a maze where I had only a couple (less than 15 units upgraded; but they were upgraded well enough) and had my maze bring the monsters around those upgraded units about 7-15x. Never made a pattern the same, so I kind of just wing it. But countless hours of fun and entertainment and even mroe fun with a whole team vs team. Will never NOT make it to level 50 anymore, but I make my patterns so different and always try to improve off the old designs. Thats the fun in replaying this mod, that you never create the same pattern and yet you can win so many ways and improve to not leaking at all. Hope there are many more additions/waves to this mod. Greatest mod I have stumbled across!

@Sgat the damage bonus would have to be 50% to compete really.. though I would prefer something with a greater synergy.. like a poison over time effect that also prevents hp and sheild regen. Two tops get sheild killer, mid gets regen killer and bottom gets slow .. or something like that anyway ^;

Leaving the damage the same is kind of cheating though isn't it? I mean if the tooltip says it does 1500dps but in actuality it does 20000dps people will unknowingly pass over it for more expensive, shittier damage dealing towers.

I'm not sure if it is affected by the damage upgrade over time either actually. That might be an exclusive bonus to the voidray. However, the beam type attack DOES inflict damage continuously. I have used that weapon (and pretty much that weapon alone) to solo bosses. It inflicts approximately 1900dmg every .1 seconds. Considering it was on the boss, I am certainly not confusing it with splash. The attack time per second is only the amount of delay between each new attack. Give it a try if you don't believe me. It inflicts far more damage that it is supposed to.

And a note about balance.. that last air wave is much too strong. If I couldn't cheese things with the liquifier I don't think I'd have enough minerals to build the AA necessary to take that wave down. Even on easy that wave is really strong and I think easy has -50% hp. Should probably cut it by 33-50%.

I watched that replay.. and no offense, but those mazes were all pretty weak :P. I did like how you recovered from that fellow encountering a nuke bug though. Koodos to that.

Building was taken out because people would juggle a boss or a wave they couldn't normally kill all game. This was done by switching turret places once the AI got done walking though your maze and you make them do it again and again.

For the most part, I like the changes.. but i'm curious as to why you took out build during the wave?

Btw: Everyone, especially Ghostwalker, should read/watch this replay: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/8850-retribution-td-now-on-battle-net/?page=4#p74

It shows me being a Top Player, and rarely ever leaking as we progress in the game. It also features awesome teamwork from a completly random group.

Also, over the course of the replay, check where east's Retribution is at ;)

@Evalis: I dont think his damage upgrade with the void ray mechanics... he just has the animation as far as i know...but only Ghostwalker can prove otherwise :P I think that makes the Liquifier strong and great is the fact he does 100% Splash, which is probably where you see the "Too much damage".

@anteatereaterarearster: That's why i got myself used to the GRID setting, it sets up the command card using the QWERT ASDFG ZXCVB block. On every game. No matter what the "default" hotkeys are set on a map.

Hi, I love the game as it's one of the few mazing TDs on SC2 at the moment. You're doing a good job with its release as it seems like a new game everyday I come home from work to play it :)

Just a few comments:

- Hotkeys: the game can be a little more fluid if i can build just using my left hand on a qwerty keyboard if the hotkeys were configured to the Q W E R A S D F block like the rest of SC2.

- Stuck mobs. Currently there's no anti-stick debugger. This was a problem when the opposing team just got nuked, but a mob was stuck for some reason. No towers were in range and the only one left was the invincible unique tower (which cannot be destroyed by the nuke). But that alone could not push or prod the stuck unit. The player could not build during the round, so there was nothing we could do but quit and call it game. We really wanted to continue to round 50, but that also wasnt viable anymore as that mob was still there when the opposing team left. x_x

The liquifier does an assload more damage than the listed ammount. For some reason you can't change the function of the voidray beam animation to inflict damage on a periodic basis, and instead the liquifier does that damage in a continuous stream (that keept getting stronger as long as it's activated on a target), so it's dps is actually in the 10's of thousands, which is probably too high for it's cost.

Err and on the note of costs of things, late game waves should probably give more minerals for completion, either that or late game upgrades should follow a similar pattern to the early tier upgrades. The burst missiles especially since both zerg and protoss aa towers are better for the price.

IMPORTANT BALANCE CHANGE WE MUST DO:

The Nuclear Missile Battery. It's damage MUST be buffed from 9000 to 9001. It just must.

For real: I'm pretty bored, saw the damage in Nigle's replay, love the animation and may start building one of those in my maze when i get so much money... But i totally wants to joke about its damage every so often =P

There's something of a game-breaking glitch with the new 'continue after other team loses' thing... was just playing a game, my side had an awesome maze, but top two on the other side were new and, well, failed horribly. So it got to the point where they were getting nuked left and right.

Anyway, finally the nukes wiped out their bases, but when we clicked Continue Game... well, their leaks still kept going, and the tower kept sending out nukes... at us. Who hadn't leaked a single unit all game. Annihilated my whole maze in seconds =/

About the Tower building with the angle... That's why i love my Insert and Delete button. They turn the angle of the game ;)