SC2Mapster

@KenjI03: Go

"You'd be surprised how difficult it is to make the "blocked by camera" areas untouchable. I'll move the ramp down a smidge so it's more accessible, but it's still problematic."

I was thinking, just expand the map by another 5 or 6 points on all boarders, after this, just make the terrain go straight down into lava or mark it so it's an obvious boarder, instead of there being an invisible line that we can only see once we find our units can't pass it, there be a more obvious line. I can reference my own map in this, but my map style is way different and more basic. I raised the camera only areas to their maximum (double cliff) and painted them with a darker texture. Of course since you do use more than 1 cliff level in your map, you'd have to do something else to paint it as inaccessible. You could raise it with the hill maker, making a sharp hill. Sure units could walk over sharp hills, if they were behind the camera lines. :P Just throwing out some ideas to make the camera access areas more noticeable is all.

How about that odd bug where I get a second government picking tower?

@True_gamer3: Go

True_Gamer, you feel like the Ultralisks are way to powerful? o.o;

Its hard for me to see this since I do not use walls or turrets to hide behind so when they appear they run into nothing but units and a majority of the time I win fights vs ultralisks. Sometimes I'll be greeted by 3/4s of the ultralisk population and then its trickier but still manageable. So given I have no walls, or no turrets all game and can still recover nicely when they're in my city. I'd like to hear your gaming style, what happens when you play, and when the ultralisks show up what do you do?

@VasVadum: Go

Hi VasVadum I read your post and what I want to say is in regards to this:

• A few thoughts I had on making this map better: Instead of "produces by default" it should show what the actual value is. This would greatly help in planning sicne things are "increased it by 10%" usually and we also choose our own governments which throw in 15%s and 60%s and etc which would mean we need a calculator or just best guess it. :P

It would be incredibly nice to be able to do something like that. However as the income is not based through the building in the editor, its instead based on a trigger that checks for the building's existance. So as far as I have figured out, theres no true way to let you know what you have except to tell you the default for income per building based on how much the trigger gives you.

1. I'm not really sure about my favorite. Probably the laser gunners though.
2. Well when I first started trying this, I had to pick corporate and mixed economy to get by. I find high income is all you need to succeed, the rest you can fix up the way you need later through research or many more buildings to compensate for the disadvantages.
3. No. The bank seems more so of a useless tool that's rather dangerous to use. I found this out in the first edition when I played the original.
4. Well the entire map is a lava map, so there isn't much great about view. I mean sometimes I like lava, sometimes I like grassland. Space might be a nice touch but I'd have to say I like grasslands most. In this map, I played in multiple different locations, but I think I like the right top corner most of all even if there is no special resources in it.
5. I soloed the AI on learner difficulty so far. 2 hours 30 minutes, the government type I mentioned in #2. (Watch my Replay?)
6. ..... So..... Has anyone done this yet? xD

A bug I encountered multiple times:
At 6 minutes 5 seconds, a government select tower appears a second time asking me to choose again. I ignored it and left it sit there so it would get killed this round.

A few thoughts I had on making this map better:
Instead of "produces by default" it should show what the actual value is. This would greatly help in planning sicne things are "increased it by 10%" usually and we also choose our own governments which throw in 15%s and 60%s and etc which would mean we need a calculator or just best guess it. :P

Remove the edges. Make them impassable, more obvious. Instead of me thinking "Oh, I have a large ramp" (right top corner), and then find out I can only fit a tiny bit of things up there, make the map slightly larger then block off the camera only areas.

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All in all, I rather like the map. It might be nicer if it was a brighter territory, more grassy or even had areas of grass and closer to the zerg it becomes barren and then near the zerg it's a lava base. I've seen maps which combine multiple land types before. Not sure how to do this myself though. I will continue testing out the map and such, finding bugs and finding ways of improvement if I can.

@Anon86: Go

Kenji has probably been working hardcore.

But Anon, I don't feel like the Market should be made to immediately auto sell at start. There are many reasons why I can tell you no and many of them you could feel unjustified in your perspective. But the true idea behind the unlocking it is so that new players don't accidently hit the auto sell and wonder why they suddenly dont have anything or auto buy and they're broke early game. :O

Besides for the first 30mins, It doesn't need to be available. I understand you have all these trades that need to be done but I'm sure you sell them at around 100 or 500 which is less than 1k when you need them. Which would still make the auto sell make you wait to get to 1k before it sells so if your not doing good on production it could be mins or longer just to see it tick.

I'm unconvinced that it should be available at start. If its a pain to wait, rush the university and grab it and your wait is over.

As for the Unit Supply. Your supply comes from the population as in real life governments can have military only if they have population and in order to pay this military they have to have people to tax. So ultimately both are tied to your benefit. If supply was available without population, you'd have no one to hire or if your a tyrant, forcing your people into full on military like me. You'd need population still in order to accomplish this.

End result, its not the same as SC2 where you build a depo, and you can build 5 units without having anyone to train into those units. :O

Yea I just finished all the units. adding an extra parameter in the vehicles area for min range.

But the kicker is what is intervening with the UI description for the Rifleman, Firebat, and then the Machinegunner. Nothing I've tried works as of right now but every other unit is fine. :O

Currently working on the Barrack units Kenji. Its very tedious because a lot of the names aren't their IDs. So I've had some back steps but also some progress. I think some buttons are messing with me, because I'm putting the code in the Machinegunner and the Firebat who both use campaign original buttons save for the tech requirements. The rest of the units I'm not having to much trouble with getting the code to show up.

As of right now, this is what I have and its different then the Pulsegunner's because I couldn't get Effect#2 code to work correctly, so I reevaluated the code and found a solution. So here we go.... Also, if you can get the Firebat and the Machinegunners to work, let me know how you did so. I'm still working on the rest of the setups but I gave you an easy copy and paste example of two working units and two non working units.

<n/><n/> <c val="8080FF">- <d ref="Unit,Assaulter,LifeMax[0]"/> HP<n/>- <d ref="Unit,Assaulter,LifeArmor[0]"/> Armor<n/>- <d ref="Effect,ExplosiveShotgunD,Amount[0]" precision="1"/> Damage / <d ref="Weapon,ExplosiveShotgun,Period[0]"precision="2"/> sec<n/>- <d ref="Weapon,ExplosiveShotgun,Range[0]"/> Range <n/>

<n/><n/> <c val="8080FF">- <d ref="Unit,Defender,LifeMax[0]"/> HP<n/>- <d ref="Unit,Defender,LifeArmor[0]"/> Armor<n/>- <d ref="Effect,PunisherGrenadesU,Amount[0]" precision="1"/> Damage / <d ref="Weapon,PunisherGrenades,Period[0]"precision="2"/> sec<n/>- <d ref="Weapon,PunisherGrenades,Range[0]"/> Range <n/>

<n/><n/> <c val="8080FF">- <d ref="Unit,Firebat,LifeMax[0]"/> HP<n/>- <d ref="Unit,Firebat,LifeArmor[0]"/> Armor<n/>- <d ref="Effect,Flame Thrower,Amount[0]" precision="1"/> Damage / <d ref="Weapon,Perdition Flamethrower,Period[0]"precision="2"/> sec<n/>- <d ref="Weapon,Perdition Flamethrower,Range[0]"/> Range <n/>

<n/><n/> <c val="8080FF">- <d ref="Unit,Machinegunner,LifeMax[0]"/> HP<n/>- <d ref="Unit,Machinegunner,LifeArmor[0]"/> Armor<n/>- <d ref="Effect,GaussLMG1D,Amount[0]" precision="1"/> Damage / <d ref="Weapon,GaussLMG1,Period[0]"precision="2"/> sec<n/>- <d ref="Weapon,GaussLMG1,Range[0]"/> Range <n/>

hey kenji will you change the Url for my link to this.

http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/empire-builder-rev/pages/main/

since your link only displays your post and nothing more. Not sure why.

@Lagacy: Go

I was thinking about the monarchy needing a revamp.

Kenji your thoughts?

I was thinking of giving the king the ability to attack, as well as plausible upgrades. With perhaps

• Tax Rate: +10%
• Metal: +10%
• Militar: 5% cost