SC2Mapster

Ok, so nice to get some news! =D I've played a game and you got a major issue that prevent playing the game at all. The problem occurs when there is a new row of force field. The next ball you explode, everything blow up and a new game starts. So... you never can finish your game. Got replay if you wish, but this bug is probably enough obvious that if you play it yourself you'll see what I mean.

I saw somewhere that you can actually show multiple places of the map on the same screen. I think it's like "RTT" render to texure, but no sure if it is exacly this... I wonder if it would be better instead of having 16 places where spawn units (4 per players).

Here is an example found in the thread below...

http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/49403-cse-render-to-texture-includes-trigger-version/

It's just an idea and I do not know what would be better. Though, you could have only 4 places and eatch players would have 3 RTT. It would maybe be less complicated than do the effects for all places.

Anyway, keep going =)

I couldn't play in the last 3 months. But I'm happy that now I can and that you will keep working on this

Hey! Any new updates?

@Jentzsch: Go

Haha. I make your list longer and longer ;)

Hellllloo!

Here is my firsts though about the new update.

• The new in-game UI is great, the background, the colored contour, etc.
• I like the new system to shoot / bounce the balls. It makes some moves be easier while keeping it hard in some conditions. I like it.
• The slight scale change for the Restone lava thing is ok. I don't have much to say about it haha.

Otherwise, I've only encoutered a bug in single player where some balls stay in the air instead of dropping on the last shot that clears the board.

I suggest you also add a way to change the Baneling in single player after the first time you pick. Cause right now you cannot repick a new one.

I have 3 ideas with the Single player Maybe multi-player as well.

• Add some statistic such as Balls shot per min. This would make the people know who is good and who isn't haha. These stats could carry over all the games and do an average.
• You could also add in SP how many times you've cleared the board.
• The fewest shots to clear a board (similar to the biggest drop). (Actually my record would be of 2 shots to clear the whole board haha)
• Edit: Total time played. That's always cool and so much unusefull.

Edit:

• At the end of a multiplayer game where all the other players left, there is the message about no current single player support and then victory. I think at this moment you could simply change it into single player mode.
• The replay cam is kind of messed up. Either too far or too close and if you folow a player cam, the replay camera cannot move again even if you're not looking at a player. This makes the bug finding a little harder...
• At 19 min in the replay at the end of this thread, blue is actually in trouble and receive alot of trash from me. Not long after he shoot a Drone on the right and on the left a big part of what was making him in trouble just fallen... except one. Then he use the dropship on it and the next line move down it kills him. I have no idea what really happended there.
• In overall in the replay the player 1 seems to have some trouble with the small boards. Some units stay alive and are moved down until the map edge every added line. This issue was happening in previous versions as well.
• In practice mode the balls you shoot are counted as Trash received. (That's what happended for Player 3 in my replay)

@Jentzsch: Go

Oh sweet! But... I'll get you some more work ;)

Two things at least remains...

First, while playing against anotehr player, um, the row stopped moving down even after 12 shots. I have no idea why. (Happends around my 665 shot; 1h16 to 1h30, it doesn't move down and I spam balls and bomb to try to kill him haha.)

Second, I think if a player uses the Dropship, the ball picked up by the dropship is not removed in the small boards. Not sure about that but, in the game I just played, my oponent had a couple balls shown in the small board that were not on his board. I also had a ball near that time that was just off board. (Happends around 56min. You can clearly see in from my side that he has some floating balls, but when you look at him, he doesn't.)

Sorry for the long replay haha. I wish there was a x16 speed or something to pre-load the replay and jump in it haha.

Are you planning on making some different kind of gamemode and a menu to select, for example: classic, where there are not special item or units or banelings. The gamemode like it is right now with specials, and new ones such as a timed gamemode like every 30sec it adds a row and slowly beeing faster, 29sec, 25sec, 15sec, 10sec... etc until the last survivor. There could be so many kind of gamemode, imagination is the limit! =P

Oh and, small thing, I think you could add a number over the button of the special units to show their energy cost so you don't need to mouse over them to know how much exacly they cost. I think the best thing for this game is 1: to keep the mouse on the board all the time the most possible, 2: everything is playable with only the mouse. Like the Photon Cycle by JademusSreg; only a mouse game. So, having to mouse over to get information is not opitimal I would say. ;)

And are you planning on adding an Help or something to explain what everything does. For example the special items spawning on the board, what they do, how they work, etc. A new player would not know. Maybe something also about the life count... you mostly don't pay attention to that place where the life icon shows.

And what about the loading screen? If it's not done yet, I suggest you doing something around 1024x768 with borders fading transparent. I think these usually look bettter on every screen resolutions than full picture that are either too big or too small with no fading borders... And if you need help about it, feel free to ask. I could probably try something with photoshop... no idea what at the moment haha.

(I know everything doesn't folow up... I'm just editing...post...read...Oh new idea...edit...post...read, oh new idea...etc) About the general gameplay, I think you still have to modify a couple things... It's really hard to point out something that really doesn't work, but... for example, the bouce on the walls are really hard (harder than previous version). Many moves are impossible. For example, you're in trouble, you got a free space over your bane but on eatch side there is a ball, actually you cannot shoot on the bottom line, either it will stick under those or it will bounce on the wall and come back but not high enough to stick aside the balls. It's a lose lose situation if you don't have specials. I think you should be able to shoot on every places of the bottom line even if there are one or two balls in your way. The bounce angle should be higher. And I'm not alone to think that, even in the Reviews there is a comment speaking about the bounce mechanic not beeing the best at all.

Anything new recently? Just played a little... alone cause no one plays :( And well... there are some strategies pretty effective that make the game last endlessly if you don't fail to aim.

But first about, I've found a bug. The Ultralisk is not rewarding points for balls killed like the bomb does. So either the bomb should not reward points or the Ultralisk should reward some.

Also, the same way you've made the special units a clickable button, you could make the Mute music a clickable button. (But prevent also from casting a ball while you click it haha)

However, I think they should not reward points because this makes the bomb OP... The proof is my print screen with 12 500 000 points.

There are two strategies with the bomb that are really effective. (I was using the extra energy baneling)

First one is to kill a maximum number of balls. Might seems stupid, but if you fill all the little holes around the place you want to shoot, you will be able to cast another bomb right after. See print screens to know how to place them.

Second one is to use the bom to drop a massive amount of balls that you've placed to do that. See the print screen too. I know this is not something you can do much about it, but it's really (maybe too much) effective. I wonder how good it would be if it was a smaller explosion. This would prevent spamming them but they would still be very effective.

Hi there I'm back and just analysed my replay... "Tu as du pain sur la planche" Haha. (French expression to say: you got work to do). By the way, if you eventually want to do a french version of your map, or even in it, add a french / english option (or even more language if you find otehr people) I could translate for french.

So, the game I played yesterday had a couple of issues in it. I'm going to leave you the replay and the timing where the issues happend. I won't do a video for all of them.

General issue:

• You probably already know it, but there seems to be some actor error with your EggPurple and EggPurple2.
• The changelings have an HP bar.
• I think you could set the special unit key with the control groups mechanic. So instead of using the 1,2,3,4 keys, the players would be able to use their own custom control groups key. Some players for example have buttons on their mouse and set some of their hotkey with those. This would allow those players to select the special without clicking the button or pressing a key. It would also allow left hand players to use their own custom hotkey. Anyway this is just an idea, I don't know it would works.
• I wonder if it would be good to add a Timer to show the time elapsed in the whole game, the group of 5 games and every small games. Maybe add some effect overtime to prevent games to last forever. In the earlier version without the special, it was kind of hard to stay alive forever. But right now, it's easy. So, something like, every 2 mins, it removes 1 shot you can do before it moves 1 down would probably be great. After like 10 min in the same game, you would have 5 less shots, and so on until a minimum number of shots like 5. Some Baneling combinaison can result in very very long games. This would remove the competition with the other players if it lasts too long. Players that died and want to compete, would have to wait after the long game. If it is faster to leave and get new people, why wait? For example: the Baneling "Send less trash, more energy" is actually defensive, you don't want to kill your ennemy, you want him to kill himself. If both players have this Baneling (and are not that bad of course), the game will be very long.

Bug:

• In my replay, the camera moved weirdly at 2:30. I've notice in an other game that is was simply because my mouse touched the left side of the screen and it moved, and got replaced after.
• At multiple times in the replay, some of the falling units are not killed when reaching the bottom. Also, they keep moving down when the board move 1 down. This makes the bugged units on the "small board" to try to go offmap. It happends at: 4:15, 16:25 and 23:36. This issue happends frequently.
• The Next ball still count in the proximity possibilities to do the match. They are not killed, but the units that did the match are killed...and even more somehow. It happends at 7:55.
• The dropship special creat a small issue where you don't have Next ball to know what is coming after using the special. After launching the special ball, 2 balls are created, 1 for the shooting, 1 for the Next. It happends at 11:32
• There is a funny issue where if you have enough balls on your board, you can use multiple times the special bomb. In my replay, I've used it 3 times in a row. This happends if you get enough points by killing the balls with the bomb. If you do so, you can shoot a new bomb, until you don't have enough balls on the board to get enough points to get a new bomb. It happends at 21:56 In another game I've played, I had not the required energy to do 3 times in a row, but I've passed from beeing filled from the bottom to only 2-3 rows filled. I feel like the bomb is a little OP right now compared to the other specials.

I'm going to play a couple more games and see if there a more ;)

Oh and:

Quote:

- Changed Mothership color to be further from Archon.

I don't think this was really and issue, was it? I'm confusing more often the Mothership with the Warp prism cause they are both turning on themself and their colors are pretty similar.

Great, some interesting stuff coming. But right now I'm bored and almost sleeping in front of my comp so I'll go sleep. But I want you to know that I'll probably play a couple games and come back with a couple bugs or issues... I've played one tonight and there were a couple things weird. Anyway, see ya soon.

Ok, so after a couple days in Minecraft I came back to your game and played a little. I've re-tested all the weapons and founded a new bug. Look at the video.