Ya ha-ha I was the same way about tvtropes, thanks for the link libertymonk I find it quite informative and fun to look through all that site offers.
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@zeldarules28: Go
Ah, alright. I had that odd feeling that something was out of character about no edits to your posts in this thread. (I have been around here a while, but I only started voicing recently. It was like, this is a good place to look out for upcoming maps. Let's check back every few weeks. But I really wanted to attempt to share ideas with the devs of Starmon.)
So... no updated OP for another 2 months? Hrm. Oh well. "The hordes" will poke heads in when there's a video to watch anyhow.
@DaFunk86: Go
tvtropes. Gah. The life of an "informed" consumer. On another note, that's what sharing is for! Fun! (/tvtropes discussion. I will not hijack this thread.)
Argh, was making a sweet update for the OP with links to other posts and stuff, and then I hit the back button and it's all gone >.> Can't really be bothered to try again today, maybe another time.
I usually don't have issues with the back button as the browser saves what I write, but apparently it doesn't for edits because it has to reload that part of the page when I press the edit button, which made my draft vanish >.>
Also, was gonna ask you whether you were working on any models or anything :p
@TheAlmaity: Go I have about 6 fence variations already done, and I'll extract all kinds of furniture from sc2 models. Coaches, chairs, tables, eveything useful I can find. I'm not on my computer right now and I've been trying to use blender with windows 7 but it's too buggy, so I think I won't upload these to the assets section before saturday or sunday.
And I've been thinking about possible Starmons, I want to create an oddish-like plant starmon, but I don't know what to sue for the body. I also want to create a ghost-type starmon, I just don't know how it would look like.
Could definitely use something similar to Oddish, but I think we've got enough ghosts (Psychics on the other hand could come in handy)
And some good interior-doodads would be really useful :) thanks a lot.
I was gonna suggest using startools on 3DSmax if you're familiar with the program, but then we can't use the models (Although... ZELDA! Should we just switch to the HotS beta editor? It's not like we're gonna be done before patch 2.0 anyway)
Also, talking about models, I think I'll finally post the concept art for our special starmon and message Zolden about it.
Ta-da!
... yea... I'm not too amazing at photoshop, and I've run out of ideas on how to make her look better....
EDIT: SCREW IT, I DID IT ANYWAY.
Edited the first post, please tell me if I missed anything/you want me to add anything else to the list
My Projects:
Sorted Multiplayer Leader Board
Card Shuffle Dialog Demo
Air Wars Mass
Blizzard Fan since Starcraft. The Single Player story is AMAZING IMO, I can't wait for the Expansions. In Warcraft 3 I only enjoy the Custom Maps scene (& Blizzards...
Well, libertymonk came closest to my inspiration for this :p I got the idea a long time ago (was actually gonna make her a character in a story I was writing) after reading part of Gardevoir's trivia section on Bulbapedia
Quote from Bulbapedia:
Gardevoir resembles a ballroom dancer. Its exaggerated head with minimal facial expression and an overall frail, featureless physique could also be attributed to anesama ningyou, a style of traditional Japanese paper doll. Its protective nature over its Trainer may suggest that it is based on a guardian angel, though its ghost-like characteristics could also suggest that it is based on ghosts that refuse to leave this world.
The original idea I had was the spirit of a little girl that never left the world and over time took on the form of a doll. She'd live in a forest, and people passing through it would occasionally hear out of place sounds: Maybe a child laughing, or crying, calling for help, or the crackling of a campfire - Anything to draw their attention. Then they'd spot a little girl, but only see her from the back. When they got close, the girl would turn around, look at them with a drawn on eye and stitched on smile, and then horrible things would happen. Sometimes, some would escape, their minds damaged beyond repair, all they could was to ramble about the horrifying little doll-girl and what she did...
As for this Starmon, I liked the visual image I had of that ghost so I decided to reuse it. She's supposed to look like a cute, yet very creepy doll. I'm not sure whether to make her Ghost type or Dark+Psychic (I'm leaning more towards the latter). I can't wait to see what Zolden will be able to make :)
Also, Zenx, they don't have to be strictly "monsters", if I can make humanoid work, why not? Pokemon had Mr.Mime, Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir, Ghotitelle and I'm sure there are some other fairly humanoid ones that I can't remember. (Also, come on, monster dolls! Her mouth is freaking stitches! And she's not "wearing" shoes, they're stitched to her legs :p )
Yay! I reminded you to consider adding a character you had already created into the game that you are creating. Also, I am happy that the gist of m favorite evolution "tree" has life in Starmon.
Almaity, what say you to a Ghost-Normal, type that is the Yang to Doll-Girl's Yin? S/he would be a more "spiritual" or "essence-based" human-ish from. This may be double-plus-un-good if you meant "special" as in standing alone, with no compliment, opposition or counter. What I'm thinking is something of a Mew to her Mewtwo. I have no idea what it'd look like, but an Archon would come closet (and what they are "made of" supports the lore that I'm imagining) but more ethereal... if that was possible.
This and That are kind of what I imagine, but less Protoss-y, the Dark Archon with less of a claw and more of a hand. Actually, Haunter/Gangar are probably my inspiration. Although, green would be a better color if it's complimenting Doll-Girl's purple.
Now, as for a name, I'm thinking something in the realm of Feliritu/Faeritu (Felix-Spiritus, happy spirit) or possibly Nymphalix (faerie-happy). Although the 'Mon has a dark appearance and not-so-pure type, the actual "spirit" (sorry) of the 'Mon would be that of an ancient, wise, kind, uninvolved type of being... unless things get sticky. Anyhow, yeah.
/ramble
@TheAlmaity: Go Beware of type combinations, specially if they haven't appeared yet in pokemon games. I haven't played newer versions but I don't remember a dark+psychic pokemon. Some combinations aren't used on purpose, because they could be OP, or because it's hard to imagine a pokemon that fits the combination.
Also, remember you MUST have pink-colored normal-type pokemons, that seems to be a rule ;-)
I think I can make a psychic pokemon like solrock or lunatone, made of rocks and protoss "mystical" things. Now that I think of it the new Mothership Core and Oracle are some nice psychic starmon.
The original idea I had was the spirit of a little girl that never left the world and over time took on the form of a doll. She'd live in a forest, and people passing through it would occasionally hear out of place sounds: Maybe a child laughing, or crying, calling for help, or the crackling of a campfire - Anything to draw their attention. Then they'd spot a little girl, but only see her from the back. When they got close, the girl would turn around, look at them with a drawn on eye and stitched on smile, and then horrible things would happen. Sometimes, some would escape, their minds damaged beyond repair, all they could was to ramble about the horrifying little doll-girl and what she did...
As for this Starmon, I liked the visual image I had of that ghost so I decided to reuse it. She's supposed to look like a cute, yet very creepy doll. I'm not sure whether to make her Ghost type or Dark+Psychic (I'm leaning more towards the latter). I can't wait to see what Zolden will be able to make :)
Beware of type combinations, specially if they haven't appeared yet in pokemon games. I haven't played newer versions but I don't remember a dark+psychic pokemon. Some combinations aren't used on purpose, because they could be OP, or because it's hard to imagine a pokemon that fits the combination.
Yea, only reason why I was considering anything other than dark+psychic was because I was worried about type matchups. Looking at the chart, all weaknesses balance each other out, except for bug which gets turned into a x4 weakness. I'm actually not sure whether that's a bad thing - It would be sort of like Normals, except that her one weakness is x4 instead of x2. This type combination eliminates all x0.5 and x2 multipliers, leaving only a x0 (Psychic) and x4 (Bug, and bugs are somewhat abundant)
Don't have pink colored normals :( Tbh, don't have many normals at all. Two 2-stage chains only for now, so 4 in total.
Sorry, but your post is somewhat confusing to read through :p
I thought about creating a counterpart to her for a few minutes, but Zolden would have to be up for that. BUT we were planning on creating a good/evil duo of starmon that would be related to the Karma system mentioned somewhere in this thread.
Thanks for the name suggestions, those sound pretty good, but haven't decided on one yet :) Would prefer having something that's a bit more sinister or a combination of good and bad meanings, although that may be relatively impossible as combining such words would probably require adding in a third word like "spirit" or something like that, and it would end up fairly long then...
And yea, Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir are my favourite pokemon evolution tree as well ;)
The story I made her up for had some focus on story-telling (The main character would be someone a ton of stories are told about), so the little girl was supposed to be one of the legends told in the story I was writing (A bit unrelated, but the protagonist would actually meet her and find out she's obsessed with stories herself, and let's the protagonist live because she's "a legend, like me")
Coming up with sinister stuff to write can be quite interesting, for lack of a better word, and I don't like it when my stuff is too "good" - There needs to be some dark things happening. It's why a good amount of my hero characters are pretty brutal and merciless in the forum RPG (Darth Waiter especially. I wish I got to use his "dark side" more often...)
Makes perfect sense, I agree completely. I just found the setting funny.
"Hey guys, we're making a pokemon map, this is one of the pokemon in there!"
"Cool, what's it based on?"
"Oh it's just this story I made up about a creepy ghost of a dead young girl that would commit unspeakable acts of horror and inflict terrible torment upon everybody who encountered her."
Have you guys made any artwork like map logo? Pokemart or Pokecenter -like logos or anything I could use in billboards, banners, store fronts and other doodads?
I'm basically working on doodads cut from SC2 models right now, but modifying billboards and the like to fit the map theme is easy, so you guys could design some artwork for them (if you have free time and are willing to do it of course).
Current logo is in the first post now (updated it yesterday to include the logo). If possible, can you make what is displayed on the billboard an entirely seperate texture? That way I can easily use Texture Select by ID to change what's on the billboard to any image I made myself, so I can take my time with making them and even add additional billboards without requiring a new model.
@TheAlmaity: Go
Ya ha-ha I was the same way about tvtropes, thanks for the link libertymonk I find it quite informative and fun to look through all that site offers.
@zeldarules28: Go Ah, alright. I had that odd feeling that something was out of character about no edits to your posts in this thread. (I have been around here a while, but I only started voicing recently. It was like, this is a good place to look out for upcoming maps. Let's check back every few weeks. But I really wanted to attempt to share ideas with the devs of Starmon.)
So... no updated OP for another 2 months? Hrm. Oh well. "The hordes" will poke heads in when there's a video to watch anyhow.
@DaFunk86: Go tvtropes. Gah. The life of an "informed" consumer. On another note, that's what sharing is for! Fun! (/tvtropes discussion. I will not hijack this thread.)
@OceanFlex: Go
Argh, was making a sweet update for the OP with links to other posts and stuff, and then I hit the back button and it's all gone >.> Can't really be bothered to try again today, maybe another time.
@TheAlmaity: Go I always copy my posts when I write huge walls of text on mapster. It happened to me too many times.
@SoulFilcher: Go
I usually don't have issues with the back button as the browser saves what I write, but apparently it doesn't for edits because it has to reload that part of the page when I press the edit button, which made my draft vanish >.>
Also, was gonna ask you whether you were working on any models or anything :p
@TheAlmaity: Go I have about 6 fence variations already done, and I'll extract all kinds of furniture from sc2 models. Coaches, chairs, tables, eveything useful I can find. I'm not on my computer right now and I've been trying to use blender with windows 7 but it's too buggy, so I think I won't upload these to the assets section before saturday or sunday.
And I've been thinking about possible Starmons, I want to create an oddish-like plant starmon, but I don't know what to sue for the body. I also want to create a ghost-type starmon, I just don't know how it would look like.
@SoulFilcher: Go
Cool, nice to hear :)
Could definitely use something similar to Oddish, but I think we've got enough ghosts (Psychics on the other hand could come in handy)
And some good interior-doodads would be really useful :) thanks a lot.
I was gonna suggest using startools on 3DSmax if you're familiar with the program, but then we can't use the models (Although... ZELDA! Should we just switch to the HotS beta editor? It's not like we're gonna be done before patch 2.0 anyway)
Also, talking about models, I think I'll finally post the concept art for our special starmon and message Zolden about it.
Ta-da!
... yea... I'm not too amazing at photoshop, and I've run out of ideas on how to make her look better....
EDIT: SCREW IT, I DID IT ANYWAY.
Edited the first post, please tell me if I missed anything/you want me to add anything else to the list
Squee! I love her! Like a purple Ralts. (gonna go admire the OP now.) Though, admittedly, more like Kirlia with a hint of Garedevoir.
Only thing I can think of it maybe adjust her gaze to be more in a corner/side of her eye.
You need to link to the Moves Video on page 2.
@TheAlmaity: Go
Wow Thanks for the preview of that special starmon. She looks like Ruby Gloom / Gothitelle combo very nice.
@TheAlmaity: Go
that looks very off to be a "monster"
starmons wear clothes? shoes?
well its up to you to designe the monsters.
Well, libertymonk came closest to my inspiration for this :p I got the idea a long time ago (was actually gonna make her a character in a story I was writing) after reading part of Gardevoir's trivia section on Bulbapedia
The original idea I had was the spirit of a little girl that never left the world and over time took on the form of a doll. She'd live in a forest, and people passing through it would occasionally hear out of place sounds: Maybe a child laughing, or crying, calling for help, or the crackling of a campfire - Anything to draw their attention. Then they'd spot a little girl, but only see her from the back. When they got close, the girl would turn around, look at them with a drawn on eye and stitched on smile, and then horrible things would happen. Sometimes, some would escape, their minds damaged beyond repair, all they could was to ramble about the horrifying little doll-girl and what she did...
As for this Starmon, I liked the visual image I had of that ghost so I decided to reuse it. She's supposed to look like a cute, yet very creepy doll. I'm not sure whether to make her Ghost type or Dark+Psychic (I'm leaning more towards the latter). I can't wait to see what Zolden will be able to make :)
Also, Zenx, they don't have to be strictly "monsters", if I can make humanoid work, why not? Pokemon had Mr.Mime, Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir, Ghotitelle and I'm sure there are some other fairly humanoid ones that I can't remember. (Also, come on, monster dolls! Her mouth is freaking stitches! And she's not "wearing" shoes, they're stitched to her legs :p )
Yay! I reminded you to consider adding a character you had already created into the game that you are creating. Also, I am happy that the gist of m favorite evolution "tree" has life in Starmon.
Almaity, what say you to a Ghost-Normal, type that is the Yang to Doll-Girl's Yin? S/he would be a more "spiritual" or "essence-based" human-ish from. This may be double-plus-un-good if you meant "special" as in standing alone, with no compliment, opposition or counter. What I'm thinking is something of a Mew to her Mewtwo. I have no idea what it'd look like, but an Archon would come closet (and what they are "made of" supports the lore that I'm imagining) but more ethereal... if that was possible.
This and That are kind of what I imagine, but less Protoss-y, the Dark Archon with less of a claw and more of a hand. Actually, Haunter/Gangar are probably my inspiration. Although, green would be a better color if it's complimenting Doll-Girl's purple.
Now, as for a name, I'm thinking something in the realm of Feliritu/Faeritu (Felix-Spiritus, happy spirit) or possibly Nymphalix (faerie-happy). Although the 'Mon has a dark appearance and not-so-pure type, the actual "spirit" (sorry) of the 'Mon would be that of an ancient, wise, kind, uninvolved type of being... unless things get sticky. Anyhow, yeah. /ramble
@TheAlmaity: Go Beware of type combinations, specially if they haven't appeared yet in pokemon games. I haven't played newer versions but I don't remember a dark+psychic pokemon. Some combinations aren't used on purpose, because they could be OP, or because it's hard to imagine a pokemon that fits the combination.
Also, remember you MUST have pink-colored normal-type pokemons, that seems to be a rule ;-)
I think I can make a psychic pokemon like solrock or lunatone, made of rocks and protoss "mystical" things. Now that I think of it the new Mothership Core and Oracle are some nice psychic starmon.
Shit dude O_O
Are you ok?
I think the lore/style is the main reason for some type combinations to not exist, tbh. Especially in the newer Pokémons a shitload of pokémon exist with 1 or even 0 weaknesses, and there aren't a lot of moves that synergize of eachother to begin with (let alone moves of types that would be OP when synergized).
Make Unknowns, and have the ORANGE Mapster II as one of the starmon :))
@SoulFilcher: Go
Yea, only reason why I was considering anything other than dark+psychic was because I was worried about type matchups. Looking at the chart, all weaknesses balance each other out, except for bug which gets turned into a x4 weakness. I'm actually not sure whether that's a bad thing - It would be sort of like Normals, except that her one weakness is x4 instead of x2. This type combination eliminates all x0.5 and x2 multipliers, leaving only a x0 (Psychic) and x4 (Bug, and bugs are somewhat abundant)
Don't have pink colored normals :( Tbh, don't have many normals at all. Two 2-stage chains only for now, so 4 in total.
@OceanFlex: Go
Sorry, but your post is somewhat confusing to read through :p
I thought about creating a counterpart to her for a few minutes, but Zolden would have to be up for that. BUT we were planning on creating a good/evil duo of starmon that would be related to the Karma system mentioned somewhere in this thread.
Thanks for the name suggestions, those sound pretty good, but haven't decided on one yet :) Would prefer having something that's a bit more sinister or a combination of good and bad meanings, although that may be relatively impossible as combining such words would probably require adding in a third word like "spirit" or something like that, and it would end up fairly long then...
And yea, Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir are my favourite pokemon evolution tree as well ;)
@Mozared: Go
The story I made her up for had some focus on story-telling (The main character would be someone a ton of stories are told about), so the little girl was supposed to be one of the legends told in the story I was writing (A bit unrelated, but the protagonist would actually meet her and find out she's obsessed with stories herself, and let's the protagonist live because she's "a legend, like me")
Coming up with sinister stuff to write can be quite interesting, for lack of a better word, and I don't like it when my stuff is too "good" - There needs to be some dark things happening. It's why a good amount of my hero characters are pretty brutal and merciless in the forum RPG (Darth Waiter especially. I wish I got to use his "dark side" more often...)
@TheAlmaity: Go
Makes perfect sense, I agree completely. I just found the setting funny.
"Hey guys, we're making a pokemon map, this is one of the pokemon in there!"
"Cool, what's it based on?"
"Oh it's just this story I made up about a creepy ghost of a dead young girl that would commit unspeakable acts of horror and inflict terrible torment upon everybody who encountered her."
Have you guys made any artwork like map logo? Pokemart or Pokecenter -like logos or anything I could use in billboards, banners, store fronts and other doodads?
I'm basically working on doodads cut from SC2 models right now, but modifying billboards and the like to fit the map theme is easy, so you guys could design some artwork for them (if you have free time and are willing to do it of course).
@SoulFilcher: Go
Ohshi-
"Valley Dew Energy Drink - Be the very best, like no one ever was!"
"Starmon Trading Cards - Flippo's ain't got nuthin'!"
DO ET. DO ET NAOW.
@SoulFilcher: Go
Current logo is in the first post now (updated it yesterday to include the logo). If possible, can you make what is displayed on the billboard an entirely seperate texture? That way I can easily use Texture Select by ID to change what's on the billboard to any image I made myself, so I can take my time with making them and even add additional billboards without requiring a new model.
Also, having one Mapster ad would be amazing ;)