Here's an article which discusses why Hinduism is superior to other religions: http://western-hindu.org/2008/05/28/hinduism-is-the-eternal-way-and-the-true-religion/
In a nutshell, Hinduism has a constant stream of revelation and is eternal. There was no Christianity before Jesus and no Islam before Muhammad. Try to see the world through the eyes of the person who wrote this article. He is much like you. He feels very strongly about his religion. There is only one key difference. He was born in India and therefore his religion is opposite to yours.
Funny, the article provided no knowledge or insight as to why the person thinks its superior. Other than there are some similar elements in all other religions. He makes a few good points on this and that, but the article itself doesn`t add up.
Does not matter where he was born. I was not born in Israel. Problem is, he doesn`t question his `religion` as he ought to.
Hinduism was a culture of various teachings that eventually became what it is today. I was born a Hindu, Named after one of the six Goswamis of Vrindavan and practiced its teaching.
Thankfully, The real God enlightened me(because it was always my desire) and Ive shown far more historic evidence for the bible, reasons why a God has to exist and that miracles can happen, and how this all relates to Christianity. Yes, these were parts where you probably was sleeping in the thread.
So once again, your excuses fall short.
God is God of the bible, and as it is, Salvation is from the Jews.
Religious nuts? If you dont like Religion stay out of america then... Hate to tell you its what it was founded on, and Obummer wants to kill.
And About the whole gay thing... its fucking sick... You have to be fucked up in the head to say "Hey how bout I take a dick up the ass"
Its not about 2 gay people in love its about how Most Child Molestations, and the majority of Mass Murderers are gays... But no a male fucking a male is not gay if the ages are different... When gays actually Contribute something instead of filth Ill start to spit in their direction again, until then not even that.
Religious nuts? If you dont like Religion stay out of america then... Hate to tell you its what it was founded on, and Obummer wants to kill.
And About the whole gay thing... its fucking sick... You have to be fucked up in the head to say "Hey how bout I take a dick up the ass"
Its not about 2 gay people in love its about how Most Child Molestations, and the majority of Mass Murderers are gays... But no a male fucking a male is not gay if the ages are different... When gays actually Contribute something instead of filth Ill start to spit in their direction again, until then not even that.
You seem to have problem with US history. I suggest to start with reading the fucking first Amendment.
So it seems like you are a Freud fun and you think everything is about sex. Personally I think there are many real gay people from the gay people, who were born with the wrong gender body.
Give me statics that show that majority of Mass Murderers are gays, thats probably the most ridiculous statement in this thread. Ohh and I know cult which is obsessed with child molestation, its HQ located in Rome...
(I think your post showed us again that religions give birth to many hatred)
I didn't buy for a second that you were an atheist. That's why you're so offended by this topic and want it closed so bad. I knew nobody could forward such backwards troglodytic beliefs, atrocious grammar spelling, and unbridled bigotry without an agenda.
Thank you SouLCarveRR. You are an atheist factory. ;D
Congratulations on successfully getting trolled by SoulCarverr, for actually taking him seriously, lol.
Congratulations on successfully getting trolled by SoulCarverr, for actually taking him seriously, lol.
I sincerely wish that were the case, but when it comes to religion, sarcasm and sincerity are virtually indistinguishable. I still can't tell if SoulCarverr is a dangerous fool or if he's just screwing with us. Anyway, since the thread has reached another all-time low, I believe it's picture-time again.
Gradius becoming desperate now. Where does the bible command killing `Red Indians` or unbelievers? You must be mistaken for Islam Jihad.
Dont even bother going to the Old Testament, because we`ve dealt with that. Also dont bring up the Jews being anymore special/favored, because God does not show favoritism and thats clearly seen in the bible. You`ve lost the grounds of using morality against the bible(to disprove it) a long time ago.
So? We also enjoy more freedoms then you.. and have more people, The more people you have the more deaths.
Very simple.
Yeah no. Look at this you can clearly see that of the high income countries (Red in this case) USA clearly has the highest murder per capita, this is not even gun related murder which would probably be worse.
You`ve
lost the grounds of using morality against the bible(to disprove it) a
long time ago.
No, I just gave up on the argument when you kept making the same excuses for genocide like "these people were evil and deserved to die along with the children and animals because God is an idiot and can't resolve matters through simpler means". Or when your justification for rape and stealing wives away was "they were merely taking the wives away from their bad husbands to be taken care of!" ;D
Or when you shut your ears and outright ignore the passages which clearly show rape and evil in your "most perfect book of all time". So yeah, I have no intention of revisiting that debate again.
Gradius becoming desperate now. Where does the bible command killing
`Red Indians` or unbelievers? You must be mistaken for Islam Jihad.
Dont even bother going to the Old Testament, because we`ve dealt with
that. Also dont bring up the Jews being anymore special/favored, because
God does not show favoritism and thats clearly seen in the bible.
....what?
It's an example of a historical event. Nothing to do with commanding genocide. I know you guys were asleep during science class, but history too?
Quote:
The international community has not legally admonished the United States for genocidal acts against Native Americans, yet it is clear that examples of genocidal acts and crimes against humanity are a well-cited page in U.S. history. Notorious incidents, such as the Trail of Tears, the Sand Creek Massacre, and the massacre of the Yuki of northern California are covered in depth in separate entries in this encyclopedia. More controversial, however, is whether the colonies and the United States participated in genocidal acts as an overall policy toward Native Americans. The Native-American population decrease since the arrival of Spanish explorer Christopher Columbus alone signals the toll colonization and U.S. settlement took on the native population. Scholars estimate that approximately 10 million pre-Columbian Native Americans resided in the present-day United States. That number has since fallen to approximately 2.4 million. While this population decrease cannot be attributed solely to the actions of the U.S. government, they certainly played a key role. In addition to population decrease, Native Americans have also experienced significant cultural and proprietary losses as a result of U.S. governmental actions. The total effect has posed a serious threat to the sustainability of the Native-American people and culture.
The highest estimated death toll of the colonization of the Americas by "conquistadors" is 100 million. The reason that the Americas are largely Spanish-speaking is because the conquistadors felt it was their duty to spread Christianity and systematically destroy the culture, religion, and rights of the native Indians. They used tactics such as giving blankets ridden with disease, pretending to be Gods, etc. I mean...you've all been educated to this, no? -_-
Funny, the article provided no knowledge or insight as to why the person
thinks its superior. Other than there are some similar elements in all
other religions. He makes a few good points on this and that, but the
article itself doesn`t add up.
I am aware that you're able to miracle up a "refutation" to any attack against your faith at any time. And if the guy that wrote the article about Hinduism's superiority was given a chance to respond, he would be able to as well. The key here is to see how flawed both of your very thought processes are, not argue batman vs. superman.
Sorry for bursting your noob bubbles but really....
Atheism or the lack of a religions, is a religion in and of itself.
and really this thread makes me LOL more then upset...
Im not a christian... I just have my own belief system .... where i find insult in, is your opinion that I should not be allowed to have a belief system.
The fact that you feel that you are some how superior to other people and can dictate what they are allowed to think and or feel.
That right there is what your railing against about religion, yet your doing it as well
I call you bigot for your anti-religion bigotry.
Your fervent belief that religion only causes society and the world harm is childish.
People will do terrible deeds under a multitude of guises.
I don't see how arguing against religion has any merit.... unless you intend to do something about it...
I'm interested in what you could possibility do to end religion around the world......
Im not hiding behind my computer screen......
Id be glad to give you my address so you can fly here just for me to make you eat dirt.
You make it sound like a bad thing that I am willing to stand up for my rights by using violence......
LMAO kids.... freedom isn't free. One must be willing to fight for what one believes...
not just in words alone but in bloody fucking violence if need be.
Your Korean from the looks of it.... how do you not understand that .... American guns are the only reason you are even sitting on a computer at all and not in some N. Korean camp breaking stones... because your father's brother's wife didn't show proper respect to the late dictator.
Be glad we pack the heat..... you owe our fighting spirit more then you could ever imagine.
Suck it....
Oh and yes I am a Sith Lord.....
I think you guys just get off on making fun of other people's beliefs...... Kinda sad IMHO.
But then again.... Id find it pretty funny with my boot up your ass..
PM me if you want my address.... Ass kickings are free here in Wisconsin....
Ill buy you a beer afterward and you can rail against other peoples beliefs... as we all look at you and laugh.
Sorry for bursting your noob bubbles but really....
Atheism or the lack of a religions, is a religion in and of itself.
Your fervent belief that religion only causes society and the world harm is childish.
People will do terrible deeds under a multitude of guises.
Im not hiding behind my computer screen......
Id be glad to give you my address so you can fly here just for me to make you eat dirt.
You make it sound like a bad thing that I am willing to stand up for my rights by using violence...... LMAO kids.... freedom isn't free. One must be willing to fight for what one believes... not just in words alone but in bloody fucking violence if need be.
Your Korean from the looks of it.... how do you not understand that .... America guns are the only reason you are even sitting on a computer at all and not in some N. Korean camp breaking stones... because your father's brother's wife didn't show proper respect to the late dictator.
Be glad we pack the heat..... you owe our fighting spirit more then you could ever imagine.
LOL
I can agree that atheism might be consider as a religion. But not believing is believing, I didnt see that coming.D
Why do want people not hide behind their computers here? Why do you want to make it personal? I "thought" we are having an intellectual debate here and that can be only won by reasoning and not by force.
Anyway I will join into the shit: You dirty Americans saved South Korea from communism, but pissed on us in 1956.
Anyway I will join into the shit: You dirty Americans saved South Korea from communism, but pissed on us in 1956.
How did the USA piss on the EU in 1956? I'm not really that familiar with that period in Europe other then....it being slightly after world war 2. If we slighted you.... oh well. Your big boys.
If your arguing about something your not willing to take personal.... why are you argueing at all.....
I can argue from either point of view..... Im just trolling The Christian haters or the Anti-Religion-Bigots
Just wondering what they would do about it lol....
Trying to stop religion is like trying to stop everybody from breathing.
It's been tried before, destroying religion that is, but no one can. It's part being human to believe in something, and to wonder what is out there, and to be as we are.
I agree in violence and reason. The most potent form of violence is violence you have reason for. Power is important, control, since humans are born with it. This is why we have courts to at least minimize the damage, but when courts fail, especially living in squalor areas or gang areas, you better have the balls or be the bitch.
I agree to these realities. To the moral complaints, to the screams saying, "Father, why have you forsaken me!"
This is why I believe as well that what is predicted will eventually occur, and the only way to spare a few humans is intervention on a grand scale.
I also agree that nuking entire countries because a certain group is running around in there are creating trouble is a terrible move. This goes with attacking religions as well.
I suggest atheist send pastors,clergy and imams that will corrupt the religions from within. Make their believers think, and allow them to doubt, then from there control which clergy becomes clergy so the plan persist. But even so, the "elect" will never be deceived but will only be strengthened in the process.
The current attacks from the "four horsemen" only serves to 'shake the tree' so to speak, but will never cut it down. Soul has a valid point in saying that the only clear though brutal solution is extermination. I do not subscribe to this though, as I subscribe that sheep will be sheep, and false shepherds must be thrown into the deep with a heavy stone strung around their necks.
If religion and intellectual slavery is the "default" for humanity, then we are truly a sad species.
I also find it ironic that none of the religious people here seem to have any problem with the murders and atrocities done in the name of God. They only seem to get offended that I have the audacity to criticize religion on an internet forum. My post on the genocide of millions of Indians gets ignored. People getting slaughtered because of a movie gets ignored. My multiverse & quantum physics posts get ignored. The religious right is apparently all that matters. Did I ever say that religion is entirely responsible for the world's evils? Did I ever say that I want to forcibly deconvert everyone? No, please stop hyperbolizing/trolling. I probably sound like a broken record, but again, if your faith can move mountains, it should be able to withstand criticism. It's a wonder why I'm forced to post funny pictures here.
What I don't get about you guys is why you find the universe so damn boring? From the vastness of space to the vagaries of the microcosmos, you must really have no appreciation for the one life that we get and the world that we live in to think that it was all created by some magical man.
“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?” ― Douglas Adams
It doesn't change the fact... that none of us will have definitive proof, because it really doesn't matter what way you call it.
How do you make the jump in thought processes from one person enjoying the faith they hold....to that meaning that they condone all actions of every religion on earth.
You will find that most Christians in the USA do not support what THE EUROPEAN Catholics committed across the globe in the past. Or the witch hunts in the USA. People were less intelligent those days, and easily misled by fools within the church.
You will find Muslims in the USA probably don't normally support actions of Islamic Regimes in the middle east.
Now if your argument is against "organized religion" I do have problems with that.... but that's really not what your arguing against.
Your speaking ill of an individuals faith.
If i go to church.... and another person that goes to the same church screams "god hates homos".... it doesn't mean I hate homo's.......
But since I care I will approach said person and give them a taste of my mind.
I imagine we're in this bar and with all the swearing, lolling, I'd order another round.
Whatever you do, wholeheartedly, moment by heartfelt moment, becomes a tool for the expression of your very soul.
@FDFederation: Go
Here's an article which discusses why Hinduism is superior to other religions: http://western-hindu.org/2008/05/28/hinduism-is-the-eternal-way-and-the-true-religion/
In a nutshell, Hinduism has a constant stream of revelation and is eternal. There was no Christianity before Jesus and no Islam before Muhammad. Try to see the world through the eyes of the person who wrote this article. He is much like you. He feels very strongly about his religion. There is only one key difference. He was born in India and therefore his religion is opposite to yours.
Funny, the article provided no knowledge or insight as to why the person thinks its superior. Other than there are some similar elements in all other religions. He makes a few good points on this and that, but the article itself doesn`t add up.
Does not matter where he was born. I was not born in Israel. Problem is, he doesn`t question his `religion` as he ought to.
Hinduism was a culture of various teachings that eventually became what it is today. I was born a Hindu, Named after one of the six Goswamis of Vrindavan and practiced its teaching.
Thankfully, The real God enlightened me(because it was always my desire) and Ive shown far more historic evidence for the bible, reasons why a God has to exist and that miracles can happen, and how this all relates to Christianity. Yes, these were parts where you probably was sleeping in the thread.
So once again, your excuses fall short.
God is God of the bible, and as it is, Salvation is from the Jews.
@Mozared: Go
So? We also enjoy more freedoms then you.. and have more people, The more people you have the more deaths.
Very simple.
@Eiviyn: Go
Religious nuts? If you dont like Religion stay out of america then... Hate to tell you its what it was founded on, and Obummer wants to kill.
And About the whole gay thing... its fucking sick... You have to be fucked up in the head to say "Hey how bout I take a dick up the ass"
Its not about 2 gay people in love its about how Most Child Molestations, and the majority of Mass Murderers are gays... But no a male fucking a male is not gay if the ages are different... When gays actually Contribute something instead of filth Ill start to spit in their direction again, until then not even that.
You seem to have problem with US history. I suggest to start with reading the fucking first Amendment.
So it seems like you are a Freud fun and you think everything is about sex. Personally I think there are many real gay people from the gay people, who were born with the wrong gender body.
Give me statics that show that majority of Mass Murderers are gays, thats probably the most ridiculous statement in this thread. Ohh and I know cult which is obsessed with child molestation, its HQ located in Rome...
(I think your post showed us again that religions give birth to many hatred)
Congratulations on successfully getting trolled by SoulCarverr, for actually taking him seriously, lol.
I sincerely wish that were the case, but when it comes to religion, sarcasm and sincerity are virtually indistinguishable. I still can't tell if SoulCarverr is a dangerous fool or if he's just screwing with us. Anyway, since the thread has reached another all-time low, I believe it's picture-time again.
@Gradius12: Go
Soo you use actors and Pictures made by idiots to back you up.. Wow Ill go draw a turd in a toilet and label it Atheism.. lol
Your stupid...
And on a final point, Actually today most Indians(Native Americans.) are Christians.
@Gradius12: Go
Gradius becoming desperate now. Where does the bible command killing `Red Indians` or unbelievers? You must be mistaken for Islam Jihad.
Dont even bother going to the Old Testament, because we`ve dealt with that. Also dont bring up the Jews being anymore special/favored, because God does not show favoritism and thats clearly seen in the bible. You`ve lost the grounds of using morality against the bible(to disprove it) a long time ago.
Yeah no. Look at this you can clearly see that of the high income countries (Red in this case) USA clearly has the highest murder per capita, this is not even gun related murder which would probably be worse.
@SheogorathSC: Go
We also have Illegal Mexicans and Hoodtrash that do the a LOT of it... Just be lucky you dont.
No, I just gave up on the argument when you kept making the same excuses for genocide like "these people were evil and deserved to die along with the children and animals because God is an idiot and can't resolve matters through simpler means". Or when your justification for rape and stealing wives away was "they were merely taking the wives away from their bad husbands to be taken care of!" ;D
Or when you shut your ears and outright ignore the passages which clearly show rape and evil in your "most perfect book of all time". So yeah, I have no intention of revisiting that debate again.
....what?
It's an example of a historical event. Nothing to do with commanding genocide. I know you guys were asleep during science class, but history too?
http://www.enotes.com/native-americans-reference/native-americans
The highest estimated death toll of the colonization of the Americas by "conquistadors" is 100 million. The reason that the Americas are largely Spanish-speaking is because the conquistadors felt it was their duty to spread Christianity and systematically destroy the culture, religion, and rights of the native Indians. They used tactics such as giving blankets ridden with disease, pretending to be Gods, etc. I mean...you've all been educated to this, no? -_-
Right, because they were subjected to the Conquistador's convert-or-die approach. It's surprisingly effective.
I am aware that you're able to miracle up a "refutation" to any attack against your faith at any time. And if the guy that wrote the article about Hinduism's superiority was given a chance to respond, he would be able to as well. The key here is to see how flawed both of your very thought processes are, not argue batman vs. superman.
@Gradius12: Go
Sorry for bursting your noob bubbles but really....
Atheism or the lack of a religions, is a religion in and of itself.
and really this thread makes me LOL more then upset... Im not a christian... I just have my own belief system .... where i find insult in, is your opinion that I should not be allowed to have a belief system.
The fact that you feel that you are some how superior to other people and can dictate what they are allowed to think and or feel.
That right there is what your railing against about religion, yet your doing it as well
I call you bigot for your anti-religion bigotry.
Your fervent belief that religion only causes society and the world harm is childish.
People will do terrible deeds under a multitude of guises.
I don't see how arguing against religion has any merit.... unless you intend to do something about it...
I'm interested in what you could possibility do to end religion around the world......
Im not hiding behind my computer screen......
Id be glad to give you my address so you can fly here just for me to make you eat dirt.
You make it sound like a bad thing that I am willing to stand up for my rights by using violence...... LMAO kids.... freedom isn't free. One must be willing to fight for what one believes... not just in words alone but in bloody fucking violence if need be.
Your Korean from the looks of it.... how do you not understand that .... American guns are the only reason you are even sitting on a computer at all and not in some N. Korean camp breaking stones... because your father's brother's wife didn't show proper respect to the late dictator.
Be glad we pack the heat..... you owe our fighting spirit more then you could ever imagine.
Suck it....
Oh and yes I am a Sith Lord.....
I think you guys just get off on making fun of other people's beliefs...... Kinda sad IMHO.
But then again.... Id find it pretty funny with my boot up your ass..
PM me if you want my address.... Ass kickings are free here in Wisconsin.... Ill buy you a beer afterward and you can rail against other peoples beliefs... as we all look at you and laugh.
LOL
I can agree that atheism might be consider as a religion. But not believing is believing, I didnt see that coming.D
Why do want people not hide behind their computers here? Why do you want to make it personal? I "thought" we are having an intellectual debate here and that can be only won by reasoning and not by force.
Anyway I will join into the shit: You dirty Americans saved South Korea from communism, but pissed on us in 1956.
@SouLCarveRR: Go
Still not sure if serious. I've seen stupid, but not this stupid.
No amount of factual accuracy can redeem being a Squidward.
@Gradius12: Go
How did the USA piss on the EU in 1956? I'm not really that familiar with that period in Europe other then....it being slightly after world war 2. If we slighted you.... oh well. Your big boys.
If your arguing about something your not willing to take personal.... why are you argueing at all.....
I can argue from either point of view..... Im just trolling The Christian haters or the Anti-Religion-Bigots
Just wondering what they would do about it lol....
Trying to stop religion is like trying to stop everybody from breathing.
@Gradius12: Go
You used a picture of Obama to call someone else stupid... FAIL!!!
It's been tried before, destroying religion that is, but no one can. It's part being human to believe in something, and to wonder what is out there, and to be as we are.
I agree in violence and reason. The most potent form of violence is violence you have reason for. Power is important, control, since humans are born with it. This is why we have courts to at least minimize the damage, but when courts fail, especially living in squalor areas or gang areas, you better have the balls or be the bitch.
I agree to these realities. To the moral complaints, to the screams saying, "Father, why have you forsaken me!"
This is why I believe as well that what is predicted will eventually occur, and the only way to spare a few humans is intervention on a grand scale.
I also agree that nuking entire countries because a certain group is running around in there are creating trouble is a terrible move. This goes with attacking religions as well.
I suggest atheist send pastors,clergy and imams that will corrupt the religions from within. Make their believers think, and allow them to doubt, then from there control which clergy becomes clergy so the plan persist. But even so, the "elect" will never be deceived but will only be strengthened in the process.
The current attacks from the "four horsemen" only serves to 'shake the tree' so to speak, but will never cut it down. Soul has a valid point in saying that the only clear though brutal solution is extermination. I do not subscribe to this though, as I subscribe that sheep will be sheep, and false shepherds must be thrown into the deep with a heavy stone strung around their necks.
/grabs more beer
edit: and yes its 666
Whatever you do, wholeheartedly, moment by heartfelt moment, becomes a tool for the expression of your very soul.
If religion and intellectual slavery is the "default" for humanity, then we are truly a sad species.
I also find it ironic that none of the religious people here seem to have any problem with the murders and atrocities done in the name of God. They only seem to get offended that I have the audacity to criticize religion on an internet forum. My post on the genocide of millions of Indians gets ignored. People getting slaughtered because of a movie gets ignored. My multiverse & quantum physics posts get ignored. The religious right is apparently all that matters. Did I ever say that religion is entirely responsible for the world's evils? Did I ever say that I want to forcibly deconvert everyone? No, please stop hyperbolizing/trolling. I probably sound like a broken record, but again, if your faith can move mountains, it should be able to withstand criticism. It's a wonder why I'm forced to post funny pictures here.
What I don't get about you guys is why you find the universe so damn boring? From the vastness of space to the vagaries of the microcosmos, you must really have no appreciation for the one life that we get and the world that we live in to think that it was all created by some magical man.
“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?” ― Douglas Adams
@Gradius12: Go
You BELIEVE it wasn't created by a magical man.
Other people BELIEVE it was....
It doesn't change the fact... that none of us will have definitive proof, because it really doesn't matter what way you call it.
How do you make the jump in thought processes from one person enjoying the faith they hold....to that meaning that they condone all actions of every religion on earth.
You will find that most Christians in the USA do not support what THE EUROPEAN Catholics committed across the globe in the past. Or the witch hunts in the USA. People were less intelligent those days, and easily misled by fools within the church.
You will find Muslims in the USA probably don't normally support actions of Islamic Regimes in the middle east.
Now if your argument is against "organized religion" I do have problems with that.... but that's really not what your arguing against.
Your speaking ill of an individuals faith.
If i go to church.... and another person that goes to the same church screams "god hates homos".... it doesn't mean I hate homo's.......
But since I care I will approach said person and give them a taste of my mind.