We can take it to a whole another level by introducing politics: Mitt Romney's mormonism, Todd Akin's presbyterianism, Sarah Palin's non-demoniation christianity, Michele Bachmann's lutheranism, state laws forbidding atheists from running in elections, Westboro anti-gay protests and anti-Westboro laws, creationism vs evolution in schools, the voting fraud adoption of god to the DNC platform, why republicans hate Obama and believe he is muslim, Amish on Amish hate crimes, etc.
P.S. So many religious republicans are batshit crazy, definite correlation between religious republican and batshit crazy. Jon Hunstman seems sound of mind, but too bad he's supporting the wrong side. Ron Paul is bold in defying boos to defend civil liberties (like when the republicans booed him for saying that the Patriot Act and profiling muslims is wrong), but too bad he's a conspiracy nutjob.
A phenomena occurs. It becomes widespread. Somebody starts speculating. Somebody hears about it. Someone makes something up, takes up some accepted mysteries, and goes to execute an agenda.
Then there was religion.
Or is it something they don't want you to know...
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Whatever you do, wholeheartedly, moment by heartfelt moment, becomes a tool for the expression of your very soul.
A phenomena occurs. It becomes widespread. Somebody starts speculating. Somebody hears about it. Someone makes something up, takes up some accepted mysteries, and goes to execute an agenda.
Then there was religion.
Or is it something they don't want you to know...
I just a read a book about religious persecution in the USSR, where my family is from. My grandparents spent many years in Stalin's camps because they were political dissidents. Anyway, the main character executed a series of escapes and was protected from execution by his communist parents. He also prayed for his captors, even after they beat and tortured him. In the book he also writes that Mary literally saved him from death by heating up his cell, and the communists were utterly befuddled at how this happened (naturally I don't believe him since he was known to have made false prophecies before, but still, his life in the camps was very real). All of this gave him a sort of supernatural reputation, and people started making up stories. They started spreading tales that he was capable of levitation, and they were bringing him his sick children for healing. He himself said in the book that he didn't know where these tales came from and why people ascribed such powers to him. This is exactly how the Jesus myth started. People are simply prone to superstition, especially in such trying circumstances as what the people of the USSR had to endure under communism.
Just out of curiosity, how do creationists explain the coccyx in humans and the tail seen during the development of the human embryo? Notice how the early stages of embryonic development look very similar across different species, but are different from arthropods, mollusks, annelids, etc.
Although it is a drawing, you can easily do an image search of "turtle embryo development", "chicken embryo", "monkey embryo", "rat embryo", etc. to get actual pictures.
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Actually some humans still born with tails. (its very rare and its usually operated when you are kid)
And there are much more genetic code fragments in our DNA which we no longer use.
Since we are necroing:
I live in a right wing pro-Mormon city. I go to BK to grab a quick bite. As I'm pulling in I see 3 vehicles all sporting the usual Jesus/anti-Obama/militant pro-life/anti-everything bumper stickers. All have 3-4 people. A homeless guy holds the door open for ALL of them. They didn't as much as look at him. I could tell the dude was hungry. If you have ever had to live on the street, you know that look. So I ask him " Hey, brother, you need some help?" He looked at me like I was the only person to talk to him in months. Well fuck me if that's not the case. "No one even knows I'm here. I'm hungry, man" he says. I get him a couple value meals and I empty out my old army field bag. New tooth brush, Chapstick, etc. He says thank you, we hug, and he walks off with a full belly. I walk back in to eat and everyone there is looking at me like a hugged a walking piece of shit. I just shook my head, got in my car, and went home.
I'm not looking for karma. I'm upset. I'm 30 years old. I've seen humanity do horrible things to itself after 10 years in the army. And this. THIS. THESE PEOPLE. These people can't even help a grey haired old man who can barely walk because his feet are bleeding. A man who couldn't even ask out of fear of rejection. WELL THIS GUY DID HELP. AND NOT BECAUSE OF A GOD. BUT BECAUSE I'M A HUMAN BEING WHO LOVES HIS FELLOW MAN.
1. What's the point of posting a preemptive reply? Your actual reply will be sufficient to let us all know, yes?
2. You're 2 days late. What's taking so long? :P
Almost done. To be honest, its really left me exhausted(mentally and physically) and I dont want to present it without evidence, facts, logic etc or that any `holes` should exist in its structure.
I just wanna say that's an awesome thing to do. I had a similar situation but a little bit reversed actually. Long story short I was at work and bought a guy a sandwich and a water because he looked pretty hungry and was obviously homeless. He was pretty much in disbelief and when his friend (also homeless) came in and I bought him one too. Great couple of guys but my girlfriend was so pissed off that I spent more than a couple of cents on homeless people we got in a huge fight she was actually disgusted at what I did.
I actually spent over 500 hours (6+ months) working on Breadth of Gameplay in SC2 where I promoted the '6m1g' / FRB concept (it was 'almost done' most of that time). I'd imagine you feel even more strongly about this than I do about that; take your time no pressure.
Also have to mention wisdom teeth. Pre-human ancestors (i.e. Australopithecus) had larger jaws, but smaller cranial volume. In the natural selection of humans, as cranial volume increased, jaw size shrank, so now, many modern humans have problems with wisdom teeth.
Fucking tell me about it. All four of them. You brush, braces and mint perfectly your entire life and you still get shafted.
Edit before someone inevitably mentions it: no, I'm not stupid and yes, I know needing to have your wisdom teeth pulled has nothing to do with whether you take good care of your teeth or not. That's not the point of the post dude, re-read it before you feel like being clever.
Also have to mention wisdom teeth. Pre-human ancestors (i.e. Australopithecus) had larger jaws, but smaller cranial volume. In the natural selection of humans, as cranial volume increased, jaw size shrank, so now, many modern humans have problems with wisdom teeth.
My favorite is just straight congenital defects. Psalm 139:13 says "You wove me in my mother's womb." The bible actually admits that God is responsible for congenital defects.
I just wanna say that's an awesome thing to do. I had a similar situation but a little bit reversed actually. Long story short I was at work and bought a guy a sandwich and a water because he looked pretty hungry and was obviously homeless. He was pretty much in disbelief and when his friend (also homeless) came in and I bought him one too. Great couple of guys but my girlfriend was so pissed off that I spent more than a couple of cents on homeless people we got in a huge fight she was actually disgusted at what I did.
I don't eat too much fast food, but I remember my grandma used to yell at me when I used to sneak food to one of my friends that lived in a shack/was basically homeless. The general attitude seems to be that you'll catch a disease or something if you approach a homeless person. :[
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^ me the moment this topic started being about global warming (7ê_ê)7
This thread, oh it amuses me.
I am however pleased that people are citing sources unlike most argument threads on the internet. Props to you guys.
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Lol.
We can take it to a whole another level by introducing politics: Mitt Romney's mormonism, Todd Akin's presbyterianism, Sarah Palin's non-demoniation christianity, Michele Bachmann's lutheranism, state laws forbidding atheists from running in elections, Westboro anti-gay protests and anti-Westboro laws, creationism vs evolution in schools, the voting fraud adoption of god to the DNC platform, why republicans hate Obama and believe he is muslim, Amish on Amish hate crimes, etc.
P.S. So many religious republicans are batshit crazy, definite correlation between religious republican and batshit crazy. Jon Hunstman seems sound of mind, but too bad he's supporting the wrong side. Ron Paul is bold in defying boos to defend civil liberties (like when the republicans booed him for saying that the Patriot Act and profiling muslims is wrong), but too bad he's a conspiracy nutjob.
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Will have my reply finished to you by tomorrow.
Woman wearing hijab: "I'm having such a good hair day. No one even knows. #MuslimRage"
"Lost your kid Jihad at the airport. Can't yell for him. #MuslimRage"
"Head & Shoulders still hasn't made a beard conditioner. #MuslimRage".
"On a plane and people mishearing me when I say I'm a 'tourist'. #MuslimRage"
:) Appreciate it, u are one of very few ppl who have recently challenged my (lack of) believe. I'm on a learning spree.
A phenomena occurs. It becomes widespread. Somebody starts speculating. Somebody hears about it. Someone makes something up, takes up some accepted mysteries, and goes to execute an agenda.
Then there was religion.
Or is it something they don't want you to know...
Whatever you do, wholeheartedly, moment by heartfelt moment, becomes a tool for the expression of your very soul.
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Curse PremiumI just a read a book about religious persecution in the USSR, where my family is from. My grandparents spent many years in Stalin's camps because they were political dissidents. Anyway, the main character executed a series of escapes and was protected from execution by his communist parents. He also prayed for his captors, even after they beat and tortured him. In the book he also writes that Mary literally saved him from death by heating up his cell, and the communists were utterly befuddled at how this happened (naturally I don't believe him since he was known to have made false prophecies before, but still, his life in the camps was very real). All of this gave him a sort of supernatural reputation, and people started making up stories. They started spreading tales that he was capable of levitation, and they were bringing him his sick children for healing. He himself said in the book that he didn't know where these tales came from and why people ascribed such powers to him. This is exactly how the Jesus myth started. People are simply prone to superstition, especially in such trying circumstances as what the people of the USSR had to endure under communism.
Totalling necro-ing this thread:
Just out of curiosity, how do creationists explain the coccyx in humans and the tail seen during the development of the human embryo? Notice how the early stages of embryonic development look very similar across different species, but are different from arthropods, mollusks, annelids, etc.
Although it is a drawing, you can easily do an image search of "turtle embryo development", "chicken embryo", "monkey embryo", "rat embryo", etc. to get actual pictures.
@FDFederation: Go Actually some humans still born with tails. (its very rare and its usually operated when you are kid)
And there are much more genetic code fragments in our DNA which we no longer use.
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Curse PremiumSaw this on reddit:
So sad. Yet typical. :(
1. What's the point of posting a preemptive reply? Your actual reply will be sufficient to let us all know, yes?
2. You're 2 days late. What's taking so long? :P
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Almost done. To be honest, its really left me exhausted(mentally and physically) and I dont want to present it without evidence, facts, logic etc or that any `holes` should exist in its structure.
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I just wanna say that's an awesome thing to do. I had a similar situation but a little bit reversed actually. Long story short I was at work and bought a guy a sandwich and a water because he looked pretty hungry and was obviously homeless. He was pretty much in disbelief and when his friend (also homeless) came in and I bought him one too. Great couple of guys but my girlfriend was so pissed off that I spent more than a couple of cents on homeless people we got in a huge fight she was actually disgusted at what I did.
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I actually spent over 500 hours (6+ months) working on Breadth of Gameplay in SC2 where I promoted the '6m1g' / FRB concept (it was 'almost done' most of that time). I'd imagine you feel even more strongly about this than I do about that; take your time no pressure.
(epic shameless plug if I do say so myself )
Wow this thread is still going... I believe in a God(s)... I don't... you're wrong... no you're wrong...
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Also have to mention wisdom teeth. Pre-human ancestors (i.e. Australopithecus) had larger jaws, but smaller cranial volume. In the natural selection of humans, as cranial volume increased, jaw size shrank, so now, many modern humans have problems with wisdom teeth.
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Fucking tell me about it. All four of them. You brush, braces and mint perfectly your entire life and you still get shafted.
Edit before someone inevitably mentions it: no, I'm not stupid and yes, I know needing to have your wisdom teeth pulled has nothing to do with whether you take good care of your teeth or not. That's not the point of the post dude, re-read it before you feel like being clever.
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Curse PremiumLuckily I never had to remove mine. Rest of those arguments can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_poor_design
My favorite is just straight congenital defects. Psalm 139:13 says "You wove me in my mother's womb." The bible actually admits that God is responsible for congenital defects.
I don't eat too much fast food, but I remember my grandma used to yell at me when I used to sneak food to one of my friends that lived in a shack/was basically homeless. The general attitude seems to be that you'll catch a disease or something if you approach a homeless person. :[
Perhaps god exists as long as we think of one existing. It only seems fair.