lol.....It's not pointless. We're trying to prevent our world from being filled with idiots. Yes, the scholastic system could be improved for sure. But it's not pointless at all. It only takes 1 brilliant person to forever revolutionize the world. Think of the guy that created the telephone. The world will never be the same because he had a good idea :D
Frankly, the general public is stupid beyond belief. Not just when it comes to school and facts.... Most people are just....idiots in every way possible. That's pretty much just the way it is. We're trying to fix that ;)
I do agree school is 99% bullshit for me...I feel sad wasting 3 years on horrible school that doesnt teach anything. And now I got 1 more year yet and I cannot think a single thing I could use in worklife that I have "learned" from school.
and that 1% of school has teached me basics of maths which is really useful for making formulas in mapping...thats about it ;D .
Just also read that some random schools principal had used 10 000€ on work trip a year...riiiiiight (and he didnt even have to make reports or anything).
And since school is so bullshit Im highly demotivated even to finish it...but I guess Ill have to summon some mystic energy to give me strength.
Also Iv become supper lazy after working with bullshit job in summer...with shitty pay...Im so depressed :(
Ok, on topic, if there is such a thing since, as Eiviyn pointed out, this can hardly be called a rant (Eiviyn, you should make a ranting tutorial)...
School isn't entirely pointless (I'm 17, so don't think I'm some responsible adult or something, I'm pretty far away from that), you will possibly need those subjects in your future for some job.
What I do find pointless though is that you are forced to take all subjects (Or at least a lot of them). I know I won't be needing any math knowledge beyond that I already have in the future, so I don't see a point in continuing to study that subject. The same can be said for any of the language subjects, I don't want to learn french in the first place (No offense to any french here, I just hate that language... Its spelling makes no sense whatsoever), but I guess that what I learn in english about those authors and such can be considered general knowledge, so its not an entirely pointless subject for now (Croatian is though. Screw croatian authors, I don't understand half the shit they write)
I don't see a reason to continue History or Geography either. I've learned the basic history of the world, now we're just learning details I don't care about and won't ever need, but the subject might be important to others, like for example Moz who went to study history in university.
Geography I guess could be counted as general knowledge again, so I don't mind that subject.
So in short, in my opinion school isn't pointless, but being forced to learn everything beyond a certain point is.
And the teachers of my school are the most incompetend beings I have ever seen...so thats a HUGE problem. If they cannot get good teachers, I would prefer if there wouldnt be that school at all.
Oh, we're talking about school. School's problem is enforcing subjects on children who don't care for them. That, and the dictating way it is given in.
There are not really a lot of incentive for great teachers to be teachers.. is there?
Getting people (young or old) interested in "something" takes a particular (some would even say a peculiar) talent... even when that something is interesting in the first place.. or even if it is indeed what these people want/need...
As a "for instance": how easy is it to get "people" to play a new map?
[smiles]
long live teachers who give a damn!
Good teachers must be crazy since it takes commitment like you wouldn't believe (fighting the government nonsense, getting money for projects or even basic stuff, getting more and more students per class, fighting revisionism on your spare time.. and lets not forget my favorite: wearing a "kick me i'm the teacher" sign all your life or a bulletproof vest in the worst cases :( .
Not to mention teachers get very low recognition and salary while their work has and will always will be the foundation to a better world... bou hou hou what is this world i'm leaving for my kid bou hou hou...)
There are not really a lot of incentive for great teachers to be teachers.. is there?
Getting people (young or old) interested in "something" takes a particular (some would even say a peculiar) talent... even when that something is interesting in the first place.. or even if it is indeed what these people want/need...
As a "for instance": how easy is it to get "people" to play a new map?
[smiles] long live teachers who give a damn!
Good teachers must be crazy since it takes commitment like you wouldn't believe (fighting the government nonsense, getting money for projects or even basic stuff, getting more and more students per class, fighting revisionism on your spare time.. and lets not forget my favorite: wearing a "kick me i'm the teacher" sign all your life or a bulletproof vest in the worst cases :( .
Not to mention teachers get very low recognition and salary while their work has and will always will be the foundation to a better world... bou hou hou what is this world i'm leaving for my kid bou hou hou...)
Highschool does seem pointless a lot of times. In some countries, they do just focus on whatever you're talented in, instead of forcing every subject upon you.
I know I had to take two years of Spanish which I had absolutely no interest in. That was the only class I ever failed, I believe.
But sometimes, later in life you do realize that some of the things you learned weren't so useless after all. For example, if you do well in highschool and learn all that you can, then you might not have to re-take the basics if you go to college.
I had always thought that the complicated algebraic equations and geometrical problems were kind of pointless, but later on I realized that programming actually uses a lot of those things. (Good thing I'm an artist...)
School's not so bad whenever you're in college and actually learning about something that you're passionate about. Otherwise, yeah, it can definitely be a bore.
Well, I'm a long, long time away from high school, but I'vw got to say the problem is that we are usually too young to realize what is actually useful and what is not. I used to ignore at least 90% of what I was supposed to learn, and now I know I should have paid attention to most of those things.
Now I have some experience as a teacher and I went through the trouble of trying to teach things I used to find boring, so I can tell you boring teachers are the most common cause of students' lack of interest :-)
Now I have some experience as a teacher and I went through the trouble of trying to teach things I used to find boring, so I can tell you boring teachers are the most common cause of students' lack of interest :-)
This depends, and I'd like to throw up a controversial claim here; if students lose interest in their teacher, then the teacher is at fault for not being interesting enough. In some cases I guess it's impossible for a teacher to be interesting enough to capture a student's eye who hates the subject, but I do think that most high school subjects could be given in a way more interesting fashion.
We got teachers who just fucking read pdfs....like no interaction at all.
and some teachers just dont even know what they are talking about...so the teaching becomes rather useles
but I guess this is enough for me about this subject. I just have to make a map that sells so much in markerplace I dont have to get a real job after I finish school lololol -_- or plan b. win the lottery!
If you can explain to me why reading and analyzing Romeo and Juliet for 1 month is in any way going to benefit me in the future, I will consider looking at the other side of the equation. Until them I will continue to facepalm at 99% of the school system.
Also, some classes are pointless, but also very interesting. For example, US history. It is actually sort of interesting. Chemistry is alright, but mostly a huge waste of time. English is easily the most pointless class in the school. To me (and most people here) math is still somewhat important, but to most people, Calculus is also a waste of time. But yeah, that is pretty much it. If all I had to take was math and computer science, I feel I would be much better off in the long run. It's not like I do any of my homework anyways...
What schools require you to take Calc (for the record, I use it quite a bit...)?
The majority of the time I spent in both high school and college could have easily been accomplished in a matter of a few months at most, had I not been required to go through the tedious motions of having to wait for everyone else.
And I have no desire to go back to school, either. I already wasted 14 or 15 years there, and amounted a great amount of debt in the last few considering I had to pay for it then, for almost no education past the fifth or sixth grade. Even then, I'm not entirely sure my education can be attributed much to the school so much as my parents....
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cAPS LOCK SHALL BE USED.
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hEY YALL.... i HAVE DISCOVERED i DONT LEARN ANYTHING IN SCHOOL, AND I DONT HAVE TIME TO DO ANYTHING.
-peace, grenegg
@grenegg: Go
Tune in. Drop out.
This is not a good rant.
I think reading science fiction just makes normal live seem so boring.
Yep. I have the most constructive posts don't I.
Actually, not a bad topic, just an... interesting presentation lol.
I agree. 99% of school is pointless once you get into HS.
Great to be back and part of the community again!
@TacoManStan: Go
lol.....It's not pointless. We're trying to prevent our world from being filled with idiots. Yes, the scholastic system could be improved for sure. But it's not pointless at all. It only takes 1 brilliant person to forever revolutionize the world. Think of the guy that created the telephone. The world will never be the same because he had a good idea :D
Frankly, the general public is stupid beyond belief. Not just when it comes to school and facts.... Most people are just....idiots in every way possible. That's pretty much just the way it is. We're trying to fix that ;)
I do agree school is 99% bullshit for me...I feel sad wasting 3 years on horrible school that doesnt teach anything. And now I got 1 more year yet and I cannot think a single thing I could use in worklife that I have "learned" from school.
and that 1% of school has teached me basics of maths which is really useful for making formulas in mapping...thats about it ;D .
Just also read that some random schools principal had used 10 000€ on work trip a year...riiiiiight (and he didnt even have to make reports or anything).
And since school is so bullshit Im highly demotivated even to finish it...but I guess Ill have to summon some mystic energy to give me strength.
Also Iv become supper lazy after working with bullshit job in summer...with shitty pay...Im so depressed :(
@Mozared: Go
I, once again, have to agree with Mozared,
Ok, on topic, if there is such a thing since, as Eiviyn pointed out, this can hardly be called a rant (Eiviyn, you should make a ranting tutorial)...
School isn't entirely pointless (I'm 17, so don't think I'm some responsible adult or something, I'm pretty far away from that), you will possibly need those subjects in your future for some job.
What I do find pointless though is that you are forced to take all subjects (Or at least a lot of them). I know I won't be needing any math knowledge beyond that I already have in the future, so I don't see a point in continuing to study that subject. The same can be said for any of the language subjects, I don't want to learn french in the first place (No offense to any french here, I just hate that language... Its spelling makes no sense whatsoever), but I guess that what I learn in english about those authors and such can be considered general knowledge, so its not an entirely pointless subject for now (Croatian is though. Screw croatian authors, I don't understand half the shit they write)
I don't see a reason to continue History or Geography either. I've learned the basic history of the world, now we're just learning details I don't care about and won't ever need, but the subject might be important to others, like for example Moz who went to study history in university.
Geography I guess could be counted as general knowledge again, so I don't mind that subject.
So in short, in my opinion school isn't pointless, but being forced to learn everything beyond a certain point is.
And the teachers of my school are the most incompetend beings I have ever seen...so thats a HUGE problem. If they cannot get good teachers, I would prefer if there wouldnt be that school at all.
Oh, we're talking about school. School's problem is enforcing subjects on children who don't care for them. That, and the dictating way it is given in.
I tell you that: Once you're done with school, you'll want it back.
There are not really a lot of incentive for great teachers to be teachers.. is there?
Getting people (young or old) interested in "something" takes a particular (some would even say a peculiar) talent... even when that something is interesting in the first place.. or even if it is indeed what these people want/need...
As a "for instance": how easy is it to get "people" to play a new map?
[smiles]
long live teachers who give a damn!
Good teachers must be crazy since it takes commitment like you wouldn't believe (fighting the government nonsense, getting money for projects or even basic stuff, getting more and more students per class, fighting revisionism on your spare time.. and lets not forget my favorite: wearing a "kick me i'm the teacher" sign all your life or a bulletproof vest in the worst cases :( .
Not to mention teachers get very low recognition and salary while their work has and will always will be the foundation to a better world... bou hou hou what is this world i'm leaving for my kid bou hou hou...)
That's what everybody says, but I honetly can't say I do. Sure, real-life can be worse in ways (9-5 ftw!), but really, schooltime can be terrible.
Also, that.
Highschool does seem pointless a lot of times. In some countries, they do just focus on whatever you're talented in, instead of forcing every subject upon you. I know I had to take two years of Spanish which I had absolutely no interest in. That was the only class I ever failed, I believe.
But sometimes, later in life you do realize that some of the things you learned weren't so useless after all. For example, if you do well in highschool and learn all that you can, then you might not have to re-take the basics if you go to college. I had always thought that the complicated algebraic equations and geometrical problems were kind of pointless, but later on I realized that programming actually uses a lot of those things. (Good thing I'm an artist...)
School's not so bad whenever you're in college and actually learning about something that you're passionate about. Otherwise, yeah, it can definitely be a bore.
Well, I'm a long, long time away from high school, but I'vw got to say the problem is that we are usually too young to realize what is actually useful and what is not. I used to ignore at least 90% of what I was supposed to learn, and now I know I should have paid attention to most of those things.
Now I have some experience as a teacher and I went through the trouble of trying to teach things I used to find boring, so I can tell you boring teachers are the most common cause of students' lack of interest :-)
This depends, and I'd like to throw up a controversial claim here; if students lose interest in their teacher, then the teacher is at fault for not being interesting enough. In some cases I guess it's impossible for a teacher to be interesting enough to capture a student's eye who hates the subject, but I do think that most high school subjects could be given in a way more interesting fashion.
@Mozared: Go
We got teachers who just fucking read pdfs....like no interaction at all.
and some teachers just dont even know what they are talking about...so the teaching becomes rather useles
but I guess this is enough for me about this subject. I just have to make a map that sells so much in markerplace I dont have to get a real job after I finish school lololol -_- or plan b. win the lottery!
If you can explain to me why reading and analyzing Romeo and Juliet for 1 month is in any way going to benefit me in the future, I will consider looking at the other side of the equation. Until them I will continue to facepalm at 99% of the school system.
Also, some classes are pointless, but also very interesting. For example, US history. It is actually sort of interesting. Chemistry is alright, but mostly a huge waste of time. English is easily the most pointless class in the school. To me (and most people here) math is still somewhat important, but to most people, Calculus is also a waste of time. But yeah, that is pretty much it. If all I had to take was math and computer science, I feel I would be much better off in the long run. It's not like I do any of my homework anyways...
Great to be back and part of the community again!
What schools require you to take Calc (for the record, I use it quite a bit...)?
The majority of the time I spent in both high school and college could have easily been accomplished in a matter of a few months at most, had I not been required to go through the tedious motions of having to wait for everyone else.
And I have no desire to go back to school, either. I already wasted 14 or 15 years there, and amounted a great amount of debt in the last few considering I had to pay for it then, for almost no education past the fifth or sixth grade. Even then, I'm not entirely sure my education can be attributed much to the school so much as my parents....