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um... i know it might just be me.. but seriously.... two chances? O.o then he's penalized? either i'm just too newb with map making to think it's hard to acidently do something ((like this case)) or something seems wrong <.<
meh anyways.. good luck getting a new list Rodrigo
map was way too hard for me anyways though XD although it is a good map =P
It's good to remember that I had 32,000 words to review. I didn't know about those words in my game, and I bet 99% of the players didn't know since it's very hard for them to show up.
Also, the game will be published with a new list. Check the list on the "NWW - Dictionary" thread.
Sure you didn't know about those words, but like the letter mentions, you can't blame Blizzard for that. Fact of the matter is that you released a map where people were actively supposed to type words like "cocksucker" to eachother. You can't expect them to allow that - this isn't just words with double meanings, these are words that are used and created for the sole purpose of downtalking somebody.
I'm not saying it's entirely your fault or something, but really, wouldn't you want to ban someone from your map if he was actively typing words like whoremongerer and cocksucker?
Maybe you could use another dictionnary instead of removing all the "bad words"...
Maybe it doesnt exist, but try using a "specialized" dictionnary like Annimals/plants/microbes/insects/planets/chimical names ...
This way there will be no chance for any inapropriate words.
lol! Please tell me those words were not actually in your dictionary?? Cmon... if that's the case, you can't possibly be angry at them.
I think XanoX02 had an excellent idea... find a dictionary/compilation of animals or plants or something... names of stars, names from StarCraft lore, planets, anything like that. If you use words specifically from StarCraft and StarCraft 2 they shouldn't have much recourse.
I think this would be a good idea, as it makes it harder. With words, you know what's coming. With letters, you have no idea what the next one will be. Of course the map wouldn't live to its name anymore.
I like the idea of specialized dictionary, you should try it. Would make things more interesting and you could learn of new words you never knew of before. Starcraft related would be the best.
All theses quote to say : I still beleive you should use another dictionnary. I dont think that it is possible to remove every offensive words, and you may loose your account if you dont respect blizzard policy again. There is many dictionnary that can be used.
Starcraft lore / Mechanical (like car pieces etc) / Plants / insects names / planets and stars / People Names / Chimical names / Math equations / Annimal names / Bacteria names / Region and country names, there is so much you can find i'm sure.
I don't think anybody has adressed this yet: Imo the way Blizzard responded to the matter is showing that they do give a crap about the community, and trust me not every company does. I have played a couple of online games and some companies have their customers whine for years (!) without even the slightest reaction.
You have to keep in mind this is "just" a custom map - while I'm sure a good one - from "just" a player.
If your gonna tell him to use different dictionarys please add links.... if your just suggesting then.... you should prolly make sure they exist before suggesting.
The only way to make sure you wont be banned is to review every word you add to your map.
If you dont review every single word you add to your map. Im going to seriously LOL at you when I see the
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I was suggesting, and like i said in my firts post, i'm not even sure if these dictionnary exist on internet at all.
And i never said there was no need to review every words.
And i really have a hard time writting in english, so i cant really help with finding offensive words, i only wanted to suggest an idea.
LOL at me if you want, but there always be somekind of stupid player that will find somekind of word "innapropriate".
I support Rodrigo's work, this map was awsome and know NWW wont get banned again because alot a people seem to care about that map.
None of these words are used in profane manners. "Oh.. jesus christ" is however a profane saying so yea.. Jesus is a swear. No one says "Oh.. buddha" unless they see a fat guy statue in china town smiling. (even though the real buddha isn't fat)
Allah does .. .people blow them selves up in the name of him ....
Why can't we just have ratings for our map... and if that player account tries to join the map is too young they can't play it... simple as that. >_> doesn't it say that online play may vary in ratings anyways?
Why is Jesus an offensive word? Its in the same category as porn... Jeez, blizzard. >.< Anway, good to hear your map is coming back! Will its popularity be 0 again, or will it be restored?
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Well they said he could upload the map on the same name, which enable old player who have the map click it again will download them the new version. Not sure about popularity, even if its kept, it should be 0 as the map is not played for the last few days, so games per hour obviously = 0
Blizzard has gone soft. It says online experience may vary right on the box :(
They sure as hell didn't freak out when people were playing Strip Tank Defense in BW.
Or hell there were hundreds of maps that were just nude pictures or offensive content....... SOFT
Makes me miss the good old days of WC3, when we didn't have Big Brother Blizzard watching over us, telling us what we can and can not see or play. Isn't SC2 rated M? Or did Blizzard stop making games for people older then 12?
Well now I understand why your map was banned ^^ Some words were really innaproriate xD
Make sure you take out all slang for nationalitys (eg. scot, brit, yankee, and especially paki).
I wish you good luck for those 30K words review Redrigo.
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um... i know it might just be me.. but seriously.... two chances? O.o then he's penalized? either i'm just too newb with map making to think it's hard to acidently do something ((like this case)) or something seems wrong <.<
meh anyways.. good luck getting a new list Rodrigo
map was way too hard for me anyways though XD although it is a good map =P
Sure you didn't know about those words, but like the letter mentions, you can't blame Blizzard for that. Fact of the matter is that you released a map where people were actively supposed to type words like "cocksucker" to eachother. You can't expect them to allow that - this isn't just words with double meanings, these are words that are used and created for the sole purpose of downtalking somebody.
I'm not saying it's entirely your fault or something, but really, wouldn't you want to ban someone from your map if he was actively typing words like whoremongerer and cocksucker?
All theses quote to say : I still beleive you should use another dictionnary. I dont think that it is possible to remove every offensive words, and you may loose your account if you dont respect blizzard policy again. There is many dictionnary that can be used.
Starcraft lore / Mechanical (like car pieces etc) / Plants / insects names / planets and stars / People Names / Chimical names / Math equations / Annimal names / Bacteria names / Region and country names, there is so much you can find i'm sure.
I think a Starcraft Lore dictionary would be a great idea if such a dictionary exists. It would make the map a lot more relevant to Starcraft.
I don't think anybody has adressed this yet: Imo the way Blizzard responded to the matter is showing that they do give a crap about the community, and trust me not every company does. I have played a couple of online games and some companies have their customers whine for years (!) without even the slightest reaction.
You have to keep in mind this is "just" a custom map - while I'm sure a good one - from "just" a player.
@XanoX02: Go
If your gonna tell him to use different dictionarys please add links.... if your just suggesting then.... you should prolly make sure they exist before suggesting.
The only way to make sure you wont be banned is to review every word you add to your map.
If you dont review every single word you add to your map. Im going to seriously LOL at you when I see the
NWW BANNED AGAIN topic.
Thanks to Shawn and other members of sc2mapster, we spent a big part of last night reviewing the words.
The dictionary is now smaller, and I believe there's no offensive words.
Check it out: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/13585-file-nww-dictionary/
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I was suggesting, and like i said in my firts post, i'm not even sure if these dictionnary exist on internet at all.
And i never said there was no need to review every words.
And i really have a hard time writting in english, so i cant really help with finding offensive words, i only wanted to suggest an idea.
LOL at me if you want, but there always be somekind of stupid player that will find somekind of word "innapropriate".
I support Rodrigo's work, this map was awsome and know NWW wont get banned again because alot a people seem to care about that map.
There some links :
Plants name list :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_plants_by_common_name
Some Annimal name
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animal_names
some planets:
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/lists/MPNames.html
bacteria names:
http://www.bacterio.cict.fr/ac.html
List of stars names :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proper_names_of_stars
Human name list :
http://www.babyhold.com/list/List_Alpha/a/page1/
Insect name list :
http://lawnandgarden.unl.edu/scripts/insect_list.cgi?pn=1
(can be very hard if you use the scientific names)
List of food name :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foods_named_after_people
Computer virus name list :
(Might have to be carefull using some of theses names,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_viruses_(A-D)
Virus names (not computer virus) :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_viruses
List of occupations :
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgwkidz/oldjobs.htm
(Some might be offensive)
Country names list :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_name_etymologies
Cities names change list :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_city_name_changes
Heres what you do: Slap an edit box in it (when it works) so players can pick the word. Then add a disclaimer along the lines of this:
Then you're fine ^^
Allah does .. .people blow them selves up in the name of him ....
@Roguegfh: Go
I bet ur wrong.
Why can't we just have ratings for our map... and if that player account tries to join the map is too young they can't play it... simple as that. >_> doesn't it say that online play may vary in ratings anyways?
Why is Jesus an offensive word? Its in the same category as porn... Jeez, blizzard. >.< Anway, good to hear your map is coming back! Will its popularity be 0 again, or will it be restored?
@zeldarules28: Go
Well they said he could upload the map on the same name, which enable old player who have the map click it again will download them the new version. Not sure about popularity, even if its kept, it should be 0 as the map is not played for the last few days, so games per hour obviously = 0
Blizzard has gone soft. It says online experience may vary right on the box :(
They sure as hell didn't freak out when people were playing Strip Tank Defense in BW. Or hell there were hundreds of maps that were just nude pictures or offensive content....... SOFT
Makes me miss the good old days of WC3, when we didn't have Big Brother Blizzard watching over us, telling us what we can and can not see or play. Isn't SC2 rated M? Or did Blizzard stop making games for people older then 12?
I don't really mind them banning a map if it uses bad words, I just think they should start banning players aswell.
- instant ban to whoever uses the word "retard" and we would be heading down the rightious path!
Or atleast fixing my starcraft crashing when I try to play custom/coop/ffa games.
stupid blizzard.