SC2Mapster

REPORTING A BUG!!! In Co-op mode when someone reaches check point we all DIE! So Either fix that or When someone hits checkpoint give another life! And also You should make the units patrolling invincible so that they dont die when ppl crash into them.

Hey

Thanks for looking into the things I was bringing up. I'd like to see a nice space-race map for SC2 for sure. Stick with your gut though, as it's your map. I was rather frustrated at the time after crashing into rocks so much that I never clicked on, so I might have been clouded a bit. I can understand that the dark maze might be a bit simple without the overlords, but instead of having random "oh I'm screwed moments" perhaps something like little circle branches could help alleviate the problem, so that even if someone is suddenly caught off guard by an overlord they can duck into an area and fly around and around to avoid the missile, until the coast is clear. Just a thought though.

Well, good to see something came out of that map way back in the day.

Anyways the version I played didn't have the optional overhead camera, so I'll have to try it again with that. That's honestly the most frustrating thing in the world. I might have had more patience in any of the areas if I wasn't so fed up from crashing by hitting rocks where I didn't click. Would have quit the map on stage 2 on account of it (all other players had quit stage 1) had I not wanted to see what the other areas were like. This is *not* a fun "skill" to acquire, trust me. Having to 'manage' your camera is just a pain.

And yes I beat the dark overlord one after a few tries simply because I hit a few overlords. I still don't think it makes it a fun thing to fly into the dark and just hitting something randomly (even trying to avoid a missile without doubling back wasn't an option due to clicking to the side and just running into a rock because of perspective distortion).

And perhaps I was out of patience by the time I reached the grid area to actually pay attention. How many people have caught onto the pattern quickly? And I'm not sure how the safe region moves down and to the right, as I generally noticed the safe region in the bottom left corner.

Anyways, if the clicking distortion is fixed I'll definitely give it another try...

Hey,

I played a version online earlier, not too sure how recent it was or whatnot, but the map was so incredibly frustrating that I had to come discuss it. It wasn't any coop mode or lives system or anything, so it was just a race to the end until you made it.

And mind you it's not frustrating because of the whole race idea. In fact I made this exact map back in Starcraft 1, and I actually wondered if you got the idea from my map so long ago (asteroids were cacoons though, and I think someone stole the map in the end, but that's beside the point) so I do enjoy the whole dodging racing concept.

I'll start off with the worst offender that is probably going to annoy almost everyone: Leaving the units flying high above the ground is the worst idea ever due to perspective distortion. This is a game about being accurate on the click and being able to line up movements to fit through tight areas or to avoid incoming obstacles. This completely breaks down when where you click is relative to your camera. It is extremely unintuitive to click right beside something near the centre of my camera to move to that exact spot, but if i click right beside a rock near the edge of my screen, my ship will likely run right into the rock because tracing downwards I actually clicked under or behind the rock due to depth distortion. When that kind of accuracy determines whether you crash or not, it's extremely frustrating knowing you clicked nowhere near the rock and still hit it.

Aside from that I had nothing against the first few levels.

The dark level with the missile turrets IMO breaks a key notion about 'bounds' or dodging maps, and that's the ability to watch the pattern of the moving objects to form timing. It's rather frustrating when you have to fly through a maze blind with missiles chasing you only to run into a moving object because you couldn't see it coming, had no idea where it even patrolled, and are unable to stop to compensate because the seeker will hit you. Bad design IMO, unless you just want people to fly in and hope for the best, which isn't very exciting.

I stopped on the exploding grid area. I watched it for a few minutes, and I could tell there was a repeating pattern of about 6 or 7 waves? I forget now. But anyways, they didn't seem to follow any logical or mathematical pattern aside from semi random waves, which wasn't fun trying to watch each block over a series of 20 seconds to determine when it was clear and when it wasn't. Not all of us have your patterns memorized before starting the map. If it was a clear logical pattern, or if the entire series didn't last like 20 seconds, I'd be more inclined to stay around and find a way through, but overall IMO it's not a good way to design a patterened exploding area.

I don't know if you can do anything about this bug but I find when you get the ship onto the beacon and die at the same time it counts that you advance but you respawns in the level you died.

Other then that its a fun map.

I cant download it ):

Plays pretty well. Only problems I had was the little rocks are hard to see sometimes and it leads to WTF deaths, and the lack of music or anything really going on makes it boring after the 100th death. Also maybe have some stuff respawn on the first 2 levels. If someone just goes through blowing everything up before you get there it's not very tough to get through.

I got to level 4 though and it was pretty challenging.

The bound looks nice, but I think you could make it look a little better aesthetically (this is just a minor complaint). I liked the way the pheonix debris fell when it exploded =). The gravity simulator was also very cool to watch. Good work overall