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Also, this is just my opinion, can you do something about organic upgrades? They really arent worth putting the money into when you think about how little they change the tower. Yes they change both dmg and speed, however the amount is so small that I dont really see much of a difference unlike the speed change with energy or dmg for munitions

ok just got back let me address all these messages: (just in case there was any doubt, not releasing live ver tonight :))

intended behavior, needs to be documented:

• all ultra unique towers need to say do not affect bosses
• crazy trains are supposed to be air and ground, for balance sake
• top spawns ARE supposed to only have 20 if 1 player left
• remove prevents regen from infector text
• each team should be able to build 2 unique towers - need to document
• upgrades need to say twice, since you already have one
• the fact that ppl are now complaining about munitions, energy, AND organic means to me they are pretty well balanced now lol

bugs / needs to be fixed:

• need to move ver number on splash screen
• archfiends need to hit air
• changelings should not be cowards and should path to end, also reduce life time
• lvl 33 mobs need to be fixed
• mobs getting stuck on points
• long toms doing no damage occasionally
• should default to hybrid if you don't pick (thought this happened already)
• reduce baneling radius a tad
• wave 19 possible bug with bottom individual spawn
• temple of pain should not hit fast
• munitions should own the wave 30 boss

Yeah Archfiends are definitely not hitting air, would expect even if it is a 3 sqaure range a much more visible amount of dmg since 3 2 ways is 6 squares and i had 2 overalapping each other on the flight path and air mobs didnt take any dmg from them even when straight above kerrigan herself until other AA towers hit them.

Also the Crazy trains are being hit by ground towers as well as air. Probally was mentioned earlier...theres a lot of posts I havent read lol

Hmm...might have missed a mention of this but. On top spawns only started with 2 players...1 player left and the number of spawns dropped down to 20 instead of 40. Is that supposed to happen? I would think not but.

Just a couple of things from my last game for the bug report, game was a 3v2 normal difficulty with original spawn settings, I was munitions while my 2 teammates were hybrid:

1) Lvl 31 Aberration changlings got trapped all over the map and would just move back and forth. They would move away from cannon fire when they got close to it so we had to wait the full duration till there death (150 sec). Decreasing life time of changelings could fix this up a bit if its easier than the movement but it seemed like this only happened on these mobs. Spawn rate of changelings seemed good :).

2) Lvl 33 Psionic mobs (which are similar to blink dogs) seemed to get stuck after a few blinks, completely stopping in place and not moving. These could still be attacked but would not move after becoming stuck in place.

3) Rounds 42 to 45 in this game in particular become stuck when they crossed over the 2nd point without ever moving close to the first point. I have a few screenshots from a few of the levels. This also occured on the greed round but on the greed round 1 or 2 units seemed to not get stuck so the round could end. After 45 was finished I made a small ramp so they would not move over the 2nd point and seemed to continue on as normal.

4) There is definitely something wrong with the hit on the Long Tom. I had 4 in this game and they would constantly miss regardless of range doing no visible damage (and Long Tom damage is always noticeable :) ). This was noticed on all rounds from round 35 to round 50, especially noticeable on bosses such as the lvl 40 boss where even its shields did not budge and its definitely moving slow enough to be hit by anything. Along with doing no visible damage it did not do splash damage.

Couple things with v6

1) In the lobby everyone should default to either "west - random" or "east - random" and they can then choose a specific slot if they want it.

2) if you don't pick a race fast enough you lose. Make it default to a random race.

3) I liked the old toss t1 tower. The upgrade from the new one is good though

4) banelings are as bad as nukes. I just ended a game on wave 20 by selling everything i had (aside from one or two towers) and used the money to send over 8 banelings to the other side during the boss wave. Probably should have a cooldown on these attacks as well as allow for some kind of defense from them. the fact that 1 baneling can destroy everything in an 5x5 square is a bit OP. Personally, i prefer indirect things like medivac, not direct attacks like the banelings. But thats me, so far i'm just winning games with it.

5) protoss is really lacking. I can't seem to keep my maze from leaking as toss. I have no trouble as zerg, and usually have enough extra cash to attack the other team without worry. Terran feel pretty much in the middle. I can keep myself from leaking fairly well, but i can't afford extra stuff like attacks on the other team.

Thanks for the updates ghost! lots of fun on my day off. :)

Wave 22 and 23 are still to hard to stop with Vortex's going off everywhere.. Wave 22 shield I had one mob get down too 313 then the shield went back to completely full. Armored are still to hard to stop if your Organic. Are group didn't progress do too to many leaks that the 3 of us couldn't handle.

Also the infector says it "prevents regen" but we know that isnt true now ;)

Watched it take massive units down to 1k and they recovered out of allies maze lol.

Sgat, if your comment about the missing is directed at me, it was not just on the final boss (I know exactly how that boss works). I was using that as an example of the frequency with which the Long Tom was hitting. It was doing that on literally every single wave - missing large amounts of the time completely. No explosion effect, no damage done.

It would be extremely simple to reproduce.

Yeah I guess i just didnt see them last time....they detroyed a maze of a person with no mobs in it this time.

Also the temple of pain still brings fast mobs hp down to 1 unlike the others. Since fast is no longer listed wanted to point that out.

Vex, yes that is intended, there's a post below about it. Its just to open up the possible unique tower options for each race, so Org doesn't always have to have Implanter, and Munition's doesn't always have to have Purge.

Otherwise it looks good to me, with that mineral adjustment for later waves, and the overall nerf's to the special abilities on the individual waves, I think its about as properly balanced as we'll get.

Somehow I get the feeling that 'missing' on the final boss, is more to do with the bosses extended HP, and you not seeing it go down... (Bar on boss only shows 500k hp/shield, but he has 500k more than what that bar shows, the one on boss only shows dmg when he's below 500k of either). If thats not the case, please post a replay and we can take a look.

Kara, you sure the enemy team didn't kill them? They spawn from random locations, like the Explosive Fying trucks on 39, so if they go for mazes without enemies in them, they probably get shot down before getting close.

Just tried to purchase banelings but nothing happened o.O

Is it just a chance for them to spawn?

Was on top spawns only.

1.159 -

Munitions feels much better now with the Burst Rocket splash and the crit damage on the T3. May still need to be tweaked a bit upward. For supposedly the "anti armor and air" choice, Munitions does absolutely horrible against the Lvl 30 Air boss. That should be a cakewalk for a Munitions player but it simply isn't. The lvl 30 boss in general is very difficult, especially if you don't have any slows. Seems Energy does really well against it, despite the fact that it being "Armor and Air" should make Munitions the better towers.

LONG TOM TOWER - Seems to be a very serious bug with the projectile. It hits maybe 20% of the time, if not less. Not sure if that's intended to balance its range, but it's a very, very inconsistent tower. It seemed to hit far less on anything close (within 7 range) and anything with debuffs on it (like Spore Implanter). It got to the point that on the last boss, 5 Long Toms (two players) stopped hitting him altogether for about two minutes straight, with maybe 1 or two strays actually hitting. The projectile itself "disappears" right before hitting the unit (no explosion effect).

I'm gone for the rest of the evening at a wedding. When I get back if there are no bug reports, then we are making this puppy live!

-VE - Ghost

1.160

• nuke reward error fixed