SC2Mapster

Honestly, the Armageddon round is a bad addition. Its already hard enough to find games where you get more than 3 players and have another team to get the speed bonus, but now nuking 1 player on a team that leaks to the retribution meter and it goes randomly. Its like putting all your work into your maze and then no matter what, someone is going to get nuked. If its your team, you have a chance of getting nuked and theres no stopping it. It also puts a lot of lag into the game. So many messages of other people slowing down the game in these rounds. I see that it could be a fun mode, but nuking isnt fun. Especially after putting so much time into the maze and baam its gone. I would either make that round a reward/bonus round for minerals and maybe destroy a couple towers on the team that leaks the most. But a nuke is basically making one person leave the game in a map thats already hard to find many people to stay. How is it fun if you didnt leak the whole game, but then Armageddon comes and forces your team to leak and then you get nuked?! And you hadnt leaked all game and even gave minerals to your bottom player to help the team. The way Armageddon is right now, is something that makes it hard to fidn a good game and can randomly attack any player. Maybe just add Armageddon at the end of the game (LEVEL 51) so that it forces a team to win and is actualyl team vs team. it doesnt make anybody leave early. you dont want people leaving your games early, but you want them to paly to the end if they can.

@IlfirinVelca

As of the v5 the chats are seperate. And I do like your idea of another game mode of cooperative instead of versus. People would probably enjoy that but then players leaving would be mroe detrimental and it would cause a lot of shit getting talked from both sides about newer/struggling players

@VeridianEntropy

I thought i posted a comment like an hour ago but now I cant find it =/ Most of the stuff i wrote about has been fixed or noted since then so I will just mention that salmon85 had a good idea for Armageddon mode. I dont recall the specifics but his idea made me think what if you did it that it raises meter when they leak and once they hit nuke level it ends wave but DOES NOT NUKE just if they leak again it will nuke. Raising the retribution meter to mess with the other team instead of just outright nuking them

side note on some graphics glitches: spore implanter animation sticks where boss's are first hit and stays till they die. Seems to be following normal units correctly. Also the green splash on the ground from explosive spore hive attacks will follow some enemys. Noticed in particular on air units and no weakness (when its the changeling skin I believe it is?) didnt notice on any of the others. Also the upgrade build on munitions ive noticed on at least flak cannon and machine gun turret the animation plays and then ends and for a moment you see original until the upgraded one suddenly replaces it

Suggestions Autostart - yes i realize that your not going to remove this but I dont know if its possible to shorten the start time because 30 seconds is an eternity. I would imagine this is probably unchangeable and controled by bnet but throwing it out there anyway Ready button: in-game button to launch the next wave if everyone is done building and clicks it. Good for boss waves you've failed to kill on and other times when your just saving and not building

Maybe change the armageddon mode at level 21 to have slightly weaker mobs then currently, and instead of it killing the losing team, maybe just have it buff/give mins to the winning team.

OR, and this would possibly fix the entire thing, I still think you should add another game option where instead of LvR, it would just be all survive. I think a lot of people would be into it.

Also, in LvR, allied chat should only talk to your team. Dunno if thats an easy fix, but trying to talk about how to build, who gets what, etc., should only be to your side.

Also, Id love to be able to check this out in the editor, look over towers and such.

Yup energy looks fine, all the towers are doing what they should be.

EDIT: For the armageddon, i would say if you keep the ones before level 51 just have it end as soon as one side leaks, leave the nuking for the final one.

Mind you, nuking usually means someone leaves, and as i find this a rather fun td, maybe just having the usual set amount of lives per side or make the nuke radius smaller or only able to kill level 1 and 2 towers. Remazing can screw you up and set you back, but losing your expensive towers is non recoverable.

Not sure, but current wave and upcoming wave should be displayed WHOLE TIME.

Trip report from playing as munitions towers only. Everything looks good except for the Flechette Rocket Launcher. It seems to suffer from the same problem as the Blazing Maw, namely, its not hitting anything. It has air splash yet is outperformed by the implosion tower which is cheaper then it even including the upgrade. It doesn't hit ANYTHING on the ground. My goliaths built afterwards were outperforming it single target and it doesnt have splash ground either. Rest of munitions towers seem fine and to function properly.

Up next: Energy!

@Veridian

The only towers on organic that i notice problems with are the Blazing Maw specifically, Flare Fort and Conflag both seem ok, the base fungal nest might have an issue but I never keep it for long without upgrading and the Spore Hive rocks. Its hard to tell if the Hellfire Furnace and Hellfire Demon have issues as there are a lot of effects going on when you get to em. With blazing maw the problem just seems to be that its not hitting. It SHOULD do a lot of damage but it rarely seems to hit. It doesn't track targets like the Spore hive does. Which is ok imo, since organic have a lot of towers with that mechanic already, Maybe keep the bounce and just make it bounce to more for the level 2 instead of changing it to a fast firing splash?

EDIT: Just got a Hellfire demon at wave 32. It should be able to 3 shot these mobs but it didn't get a single kill. So yea it is not performing as well as the munition nuke tower or the solar flare tower from Energy does. Those towers can kill entire waves by themselves.