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Fulgore can have an ability to summon DT clones after using his skill. The one that sends out DTs and costs ammo. DTs can have like 1 hp or something but make it so they hit at least once after being summoned. Vexing Shadows can also leave behind clones of himself that do 100% of his damage for a couple hits. Laceration can be a ranged skill with an animation like the ultimate from Zeratul from the game Zealot Frenzy but have some kinda drawback.

Maybe Krug can summon flying vikings instead of turrets that do damage only to air? Long range high damage for anti air. He can also summon tanks for anti ground. You have to upgrade it from a turret cost of 1 charge or so...

It would be awesome if Salv had some kinda demon spirit inside of him! He can summon that huge Diablo character. Instead of his Mind Control skill he can summon that. Not spammable but helps to turn the tide of battle like the Mind Control as it is right now.

Could you make an item to make Arc onto Dark Arc? Like Dark Archon from SC1? He could have a fire-type lightning. Some kinda coat in oil effect instead of electrocution.

You could make him do 60%/40% dmg of Psion isntead of 50% with less or more shields/atkspeed/range/etc.

Arc can also have floating fireballs around him like Vorpal in SOTIS. Maybe they spawn every 10 secs (3 max) and spin around him. When Infested get in melee range it might explode.

Or another item: When Psion attacks theres a x% chance thatll he'll spawn a blue auraballthingy that flies around in some kinda pattern and when Dark Arc attacks he has a chance to spawn a red auraballthingy and when they collide they do dmg. Just some items from SOTIS.

A sniper weapon that allows Dead-eye to damage one infected directly behind his main target. The secondary damage increase as the main target loses hp (less flesh to absorb the damage) Make the angle behind extremely small so that the gun won't be so OP and only within a certain range.

Another dead eye weapon that increase weapon range but decrease weapon damage the further target is. (add 5 range, deal 75% dmg at maximum range to 100% damage at default range)

Another item that add burn effect to target hit by Thermal capsule (dmg base on weapon dmg so DPS build can still kill some infested)

Armor for Seifer which has a small chance to activate upon enemy attack and pushes normal infested away and coat them with oil. (you can remove oil effect if needed)

Hmm

@Etravex: Go

for the items that change pet/summon functions, such as the missile defense drone, how bout changing their models to make em stand out even more? Such as for the drone: make the old one stay the old point-defense drone, but make the missile ones look like the flight vikings or something like that. I'm sure you have items to change ark, so for him, change his model to an immortal or colossus for different items. I'm thinking you'll make more than 1 item per ability in the future, so that would provide a helpful distinction. Also, improves gloating ability.

also, jim raynor has another model with a marine rifle ingame. Could use that for a faster firing weapon model for deadeye.

@Otakuma: Go

I actually like this idea. If you scale the mines with weapon damage, then weapon damage spec Dead Eyes will have a reason to ever use that ability.

@Etravex: Go

Ah, of course.

As for joe's idea, i think he meant that fulgore's model change to the dt one wielding the two-sided scythe instead of the one with the psi-blade from the actual game. No need to make new models, it's already in there.

@Etravex: Go

Can you give fulgore the scythe/sword item, like there is in the regular dark templar models

scythe giving you an extra attack, at the cost of damage and is slightly faster

sword being the same attack speed and 1 attack, but having a hefty damage boost

or an item that will combust all enemies in flames (like the Infernal armor, before it was taken out) whenever cloak runs out

@Etravex: Go

Well, hold on now.

Why would you base the damage of the spider glaves on his weapon damage? Wouldn't it make more sense to base the mines' damage off the glaive damage that you buy separately?

The "defend this guy" sounds interesting, but could be difficult. It'd be interesting however if he could show up for ANY wave, INCLUDING a boss.

Random blood gain is very annoying, I thought at one point the drop rate was related to number of blood spent, but I've no idea....

The "Kill This Amount of Infested" is 9xWave I think, or maybe 15x, I forget now. (I think it was 15x). And yeah, I've seen where that's impossible. If you get a propagator those waves then it's easy, but otherwise....good luck.

We should make the timer between rounds a bit longer, and add a skip button, with a majority requirement to use it. (3/4, 2/3, not sure on 2 people what we'd do, and solo is obvious)

The thing where they have resistance to some thins and bonus defense against others sounds like it could be interesting, but if it's put in it shouldn't affect SUIs (at least at first)

Thanks for this map.. some thoughts/propositions:

• Add a kick-vote if possible. I had one game where 1 guy (blaze) was mostly afk, came every 5 rounds back to buy upgrades and go afk again. with blaze he still got a lot of xp without helping e.g when somebody was grabbed. imo it was cool to kick some person like that and should require <number-of-players>-1 to kick a person and only available when there are more than 2 players (so 1 guy can't kick another just for fun)
• Make SIU rounds less random or the blood gain in general. There are some games where you get so much blood and it becomes boring with the voted difficulty level and others where you almost get nothing. Also while the normal minerals seem to be the same, the blood becomes less the less players are in the game, because less SIUs spawn. So when there is only 1 player and 1 SIU spawning the chance to drop blood should be 4 times the usual chance so 1 player gets the same amount of blood.
• Some objectives aren't reachable. in later levels you have as objective to kill so many infected, they don't even spawn. The same with some SIU rounds where you have to kill 6 SIUs. Sometimes the last eggs spawn so late it is impossible to kill the SIUs so fast.

cheers, bender

@luckyo1: Go

I would much rather have a shortened game than to spend a lifetime on a repetitive game, face it the game becomes a grind fest for that xp and the items (please come sooner). What is a player to do when he gets to level 25, what is it keeping him from not playing the game once he reached maxed potential.

The items of course.

Now, as for the time between rounds, like I said, no one wants to stay in a custom game more than an hr or so, because beyond that there isn't a challenge at all (most players will have reached maxed upgrades if the game went over 1-2hrs)

I am all for a vote to skip wave so that we can compromise challenges I guess, but lessen the waiting time, will be a lot better.

This game is supposed to be a fast paced survival game, picture it as the nazi zombie games, the time betwen waiting is relatively short (without abusing the 1 zombie for more time haha)

Adding some puzzles to the mix will be fun to have instead of ok survive this wave, kill x siu, kill the towers, kill this mini boss, kill this boss now, it is all too similar, it all involves killing haha.

Some puzzles(or more bonus objectives) should take some time, lets say you have 5-10waves(I say make some bonus objectives last longer waves) to complete a puzzle, and in doing so, you reward the players with a hefty xp bonus, or an item, blood, etc.

It still an idea process I have yet to figure out what type of puzzles would suit this though.

But taking the gameplay from the NOTD, how bout adding a VIP you have to protect, add zombies immune to X spell, or X attack, this will make players want to diversify their skills, or have a player go one route to cover the other one.

Example- Round 23: Zombies now take 80%less attack damage (but take 20%more spell dmg)

Also if you played the game City of Tempest recently, they added achievements, taking the idea from that game which can also attract more replayability to this game as well

What do you guys think? Needs some refinement but that is the general overall idea

Reducing time between rounds is not necessarily a good idea. First of all, after a particularly hard wave you need to meditate the health and shields up. Then if you're Krug you also need to regain nuclear charges. Then someone needs to also go fetch minerals and bloods from across the arena.

All of the sudden, pause between waves is in fact too short rather then too long.

I agree with Timewarp121, reducing time between rounds or putting a button to skip the timer would be a welcome addition.

@YinKuza: Go

I actually wholly approve of the idea you have with the King Prop. That seems like it would work to make the king prop truly a challenge as it should be. Not a farm-boss.

I also have toyed with farming kerrigan, but those usually only last a few rounds, as by round 20, most everyone is doing enough damage that it gets boring to just lay waste to so many enemies so easily. The team kills kerry off anyway, and you never really farm it.

here's something, i wish there was a way that u could make like a lvl 10+ map....im lvl 17 and im tired of getting in a game where everybody in the map is like oh im new here.....pisses me off

Hi guys, Very fun scenario at first but I must say after playing easy+normal modes and completing 100+ rounds fairly easily the game starts getting boring/repitive. After 100 the bosses stop spwning and theres no end it seems I quit after 131st round, without an aim or goal its pointless. I actually went afk for like 15 mins at a time and my chracter is still shuggin along all by himself. Well with almost eveything maxed u dont even need to control him half the time zzz.

Ok so Im not here to moan just giving my experience and i like this map so would really like afew fixes to those issues. I know there is update soon and hopefully that will get me back into it. One thing I would like to suggest is the time beween rounds its to long imo it make the game even longer than necceaary if you can plz reduce this 10 secs or is ample.

But yeah, in reality, he shouldn't be farmed. I do just about every game because it's hard to solo, so he's good money. If you wanted to get player exp and carbon steel, farming him is probably the dumbest thing to do lol.