SC2Mapster

Hopefully Blizzard fixes this party system. Still love soloing this game but teaming up with a friend just is not possible anymore. One idea to those interested just start games against computers should bump this game up a few pages.

Thinking Ahead: http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/images/24/552/bca.jpg

Map is too massive, I see lag being an issue as well as games taking forever. My idea is maybe a map that isnt a Cross ie. + but more of an Ex like X. or Two XX with a line connecting the center of the two. When two pairs beat their side of the X they move on to helping their team mates. Probably need a significant income bonus when all your partners die to have close to a chance though.

Wyti. in your situation you simply got outplayed. I suggest being aggresive from the start even if it's 2 v 1 from the start. I had your situations as well but I prevented them when noticing what my opponents were doing.

HI i see there is still a 2000 minerals cap, don't know if this intended, but i was in a game who turn up 1vs2 from the start, and the 2 againt me didn't want to attack, i first should do something cause i hit 2000 before them (and thex crushed me instantly after that)

i11matic raises a good point. Because of the way Blizzard sorts the maps (by Popularity), the "Custom" version of the game is on the front page and the "Tug" version is nowhere to be found. I created one of the "Tug" versions, waited 10 minutes, and still no one had joined. The custom version doesn't allow for 2v2 settings (it seems to randomly choose teams) and that's what a lot of us are here to play for. Please make a note to clearly instruct people to choose the "Tug" version when creating the map. As i11matic suggested, a comment in the map info would be helpful.

Awesome update man! Very impressed. I like how you tried to buff mules, and im sad you removed the income boost for turtle mode.

Thanks for following up on my request to change the screenshot up there! ^

No complaints, every update was very needed that you added in. Thanks.

Edit: Actually, i hate the income boost after your ally dies. It feels like basically nothing.

nice work on the map. i love the quick changes.

yeah, this whole week ive been trying to join the 2v2 tug games but its hard. with this popularity sorting people arent join the games. maybe on the map info you can put it in all caps and in bold. JOIN TUG / 2v2 NOT CUSTOM / CUSTOM

just curious, when you update the map, does it just remove the version and replace it with the new version.

I suggest changing the collision radius. Not a good idea to let the mule become a really powerful offensive backup.

Edit: Thinking about it some more, changing the speed won't change much however this is an issue about defensive usefulness so the collision radius change is the one viable option here.

I got another comment. This is regarding the defensive infestor tactic which I love to do. When using infestors defensively I simply let them destroy my enemies while I constantly provide meat shields in the form of zerglings. I tried to use mules instead because their role is meant to be a meat shield but what annoyed me is that they were stuck behind the infestors and couldn't move themselves in front of the infestors.

With zerglings they're so fast that some get unstuck by themselves while some remain in behind the infestor.

If you could, try to improve the mule pathing so using them defensively can be effective.

the thing is with this cap, even if i pull off some sweet counters it doesnt matter. In the end we'll have the same amount of minerals.

One of my play styles is just to be economical with my counters and then unleash on them when I think i have a major mineral advantage. That pretty much goes down the drain with this cap.

This is basically aggro mode. Who wants to sit there and get no money.

Why don't you switch the voting. Make aggro mode the default and have people vote for normal if they want to play that way.

I love this map, but this last release was a downgrade

Don't know when you just updated it but I saw the new mineral cap system on default settings. I don't really agree with this move and setting it 2000 again would be make it a lot more fun.

Just my opinion.

Great map but the mineral cap isn't the best of ideas. Most people I've come across liked how it was previously more. It'd be interesting if you put in more barracks in each corner and had 4 different race selections at the beginning. It'd make matchups more interesting.

Favorite things to Hear in Aggressive Matches: Where were my shadow mobs? Aggro Mobs won it for you. Non-Aggressive takes more skill because you have to have timing Aggressive mode is not fair.

Laugh moments: I love when people spawn a unit that you already countered and they keep spawning it as your counter gets closer to their base.

Or how about that guy that goes, You only won cause I Armageddon-ed. Seriously these people that are ignorant and cost themselves the game are the best.

Is it just me, or are the majority of people playing battlecraft not very good at it? I'm on a ridiculous win streak right now, so I figured I would make a simple guide:

General:

• Keep track of how much money your opponent has, so you don't over-commit or under-commit.
• When you are ahead in money, buy towers (tanks are the best).
• Keep 3 gas available for a timely mineral boost.
• Learn the cheapest counters for every unit.
• Trade resources with your ally. Give them minerals when you approach the max or they are in trouble.

Defensive:

• Try to keep a reserve when your opponents have an armageddon, so you can spam more defenders after the boom.
• Protect your towers from damage, but allow them to attack, by spawning units at the last second.
• Always counter with the least expense possible.
• If you're in trouble, use a mineral boost.
• Only armageddon if you're going to die or spend a ton otherwise.
• Micro tanks so they don't splash your units or waste fire on zerglings.

Offensive:

• Learn combos that can't be countered cheaply.
• An attack is pointless unless it causes your enemy to spend more than you, use an armageddon, or die.
• Use armageddon at the last second when they over-commit to a counter.
• Keep a reserve if they, or their ally, has an armageddon.
• If they have no armageddons and low money, use mineral boosts and go all-in.
• You can use a mineral boost to make a timely armageddon possible.

Don't:

• Don't send expensive units alone. Their counters all cost significantly less, so you just gave a good opponent 200-300 minerals.
• Don't spam a single unit type, unless you like being countered. Counters become way more efficient as you increase the number of units of a single type. For example, 1 reaper is countered by 1 roach (100% efficiency) but 4 reapers is countered by 1 roach 1 ghost (200% efficiency).

I was mostly referring to the much more common scenario where your ally spams the wrong units and dies 2 minutes into the game (not leaves with his pylon still alive), at which point you're instantly steamrolled 2v1 as it's 20 income vs 10.