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Character Name: DarkRevenant
Map Name: -Mafia-
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Account Action: Map Removal, Warning
Offense: Inappropriate Map
A map published under this account was found to have contained:
We understand that these policies may seem harsh, but they are in place to ensure that every player is able to fully enjoy their time in StarCraft II. Thank you in advance for respecting our position.
I said this was going to happen..... >.< Blizzard.....
So were there any negative results from this? I mean other than the loss of popularity and warning and everything.. Like you didn't loose any privileges right? What did you end up naming hooker and stripper? Consort and Escort? Either way I'm glad you were not banned and I'm even more glad that blizzard gave a warning instead of insta-ban.
Censorship is always amusing. It is indeed horrible how a map named after a criminal organization known for partaking in extortion, vendettas and blood killings has words like 'stripper' and 'hooker' in it.
Not sure what to say. I'm a bit triple-sided on it. On the largest scale, censorship in itself is bullshit. On a medium scale, I can understand 'hooker', but is 'stripper' REALLY so offensive? On a small scale, I can understand it that parents wouldn't want their kids to play anything that even mentions such professions.
Well.... Esrb does say "Online interactions not rated by ESRB". But I can see it from Blizzard's perspective. Its a T game and they want to keep every aspect of it T. Blizzard doesn't want a parent to buy their kid a Teen rated game and then have the kid be all like "Mommy, whats a hooker?" lol....
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Yeah, but the hypocrisy of it is what makes it bullshit in the larger scope. Think about it for a second. Why wouldn't a parent want their kid to ask "mommy, what's a hooker?". Seriously, come up with a few reasons. There are none that can't be easily countered. Hookers are a reality in our society and the way WE have and are shaping it that way. The main reason we hide these things from kids is because we're too afraid to face them ourselves, which is what we have to do if childly innocence asks about it. We have to admit that we 'breed' hookers, and we have to, at the same time, admit that the entire western so society is so anal about a subject like sex that one cannot even inquire as to what it actually is to family members.
The only argument to prevent us from taking the above argument so far as to say "alright, then we should all walk around naked all day long and masturbate in public places" is 'common decency'. Even if you're not anal about sex, you might simple not care for watching ugly naked people all day long, and it'd be your full right. The problem is we take 'common decency' to extremes in the form of censorship, where we blame bad parenting and bad 'society-ing' as a whole on pointless unproven weak "exposing people to X makes them do X!!!" arguments.
So much for my philosophical jabbering though. I also recognize we can't expect Blizzard to revolutionize the world (it's not really their function) and I can understand *why* they do this. I just think that in the overall sense, it's a weak decision.
Quote:
We understand that these policies may seem harsh, but they are in place
to ensure that every player is able to fully enjoy their time in
StarCraft II. Thank you in advance for respecting our position.
I think THIS is the funniest thing in that entire email.
They are in place to ensure every player is able to fully enjoy their time in SC2? Really? Has Blizzard seen the shit 95% of the people you meet on bnet say?
"NAGERS AND JEWS ARE WORSE THEN AIDS, AND THEY ALSO HAPPEN TO ALL HAVE AIDS"
^ I see shit like that every 5 seconds on battle.net..... god forbid a map uses the word Hooker lol
Blizz employee plays Mafia and gets the stripper role. He's pissed that he can't kill people like a mafioso, so he files a report to get them removed from the game.
Eh keep in mind that Blizzard didn't take the actions directly, but someone reported it, and they investigated it, and then took actions.
If someone reports it, it is their job to look at it further. And it is understandable why it got taken down no matter how bullshit it may seem to be.
Your map is still active on EU, so well.. meh, was it really a huge loss though? We already know the popularity system is flawed, and people who have bookmarked your map will still continue playing it.
@Bounty_98:
Report them and they will face their judgement. But since you or no one else bothers, it will still go on.
.*applause*
Pretty much agree with everything Moz said... What I'd like to add is that Blizzard used some "bad words" in the campaign afaik (not exactly sure how many and which, but I'll bet [Son of a] "Bitch" was included, which I think is more "offensive" than hooker), so shouldn't we be able to use those as well?
I think that blizzard should allow some sort of "rating" for maps which mapmakers can use (The usual ratings, like blood, alcohol, violence, swears, nudity, etc.), the author enables the ratings that fit his map, if the ratings include something that would be "deemed inappropriate", a (disable-able) warning is shown before you join the lobby saying in all caps and font size 9001 "THIS MAP CONTAINS THE FOLLOWING: (ratings checked by author), you may not report the map for that content since we're telling you it's there and if you're offended by it just simply don't play the map"
Yeah, the real bullshit of this is that in the campaign, at least Spanish version, you have like "goddamn son of a bitch", "fuck this shit", "fucking bastards" and worse stuff in every cinematic. When I started playing it, I got shocked by the amount of free insults every dialogue line had, lol, I was like "do writers really need to write that many insults to make it "cool"?".
But outside the campaign, you can't call anyone "dumb", because you will get banned for racial discriminative religious terrorism.
Fucking hypocrites.
Also, I agree we should have an ESRB thing, that could work together with the language and mature filters, so we can hide our map or change some texts in case playerFilterOn==True or something like that.
So what if we use the model of the holographic stripper, and pull every bad word from the sound files. Make it into one huge offensive map with only things pulled from the editor.
I guess it was my turn to get one of these. Have I "made it" in the mapping world now?
(Mafia is back up, but lost all its hours on US)
At least the message did not contain:
I did see it happening, it was a matter of time, what have you changed hooker and stripper too?
Dirty Whore and Clean Whore
... or Consort and Escort
@DarkRevenantX: Go
I said this was going to happen..... >.< Blizzard.....
So were there any negative results from this? I mean other than the loss of popularity and warning and everything.. Like you didn't loose any privileges right? What did you end up naming hooker and stripper? Consort and Escort? Either way I'm glad you were not banned and I'm even more glad that blizzard gave a warning instead of insta-ban.
Censorship is always amusing. It is indeed horrible how a map named after a criminal organization known for partaking in extortion, vendettas and blood killings has words like 'stripper' and 'hooker' in it.
Not sure what to say. I'm a bit triple-sided on it. On the largest scale, censorship in itself is bullshit. On a medium scale, I can understand 'hooker', but is 'stripper' REALLY so offensive? On a small scale, I can understand it that parents wouldn't want their kids to play anything that even mentions such professions.
@Mozared: Go
Well.... Esrb does say "Online interactions not rated by ESRB". But I can see it from Blizzard's perspective. Its a T game and they want to keep every aspect of it T. Blizzard doesn't want a parent to buy their kid a Teen rated game and then have the kid be all like "Mommy, whats a hooker?" lol....
@zeldarules28: Go
Yeah, but the hypocrisy of it is what makes it bullshit in the larger scope. Think about it for a second. Why wouldn't a parent want their kid to ask "mommy, what's a hooker?". Seriously, come up with a few reasons. There are none that can't be easily countered. Hookers are a reality in our society and the way WE have and are shaping it that way. The main reason we hide these things from kids is because we're too afraid to face them ourselves, which is what we have to do if childly innocence asks about it. We have to admit that we 'breed' hookers, and we have to, at the same time, admit that the entire western so society is so anal about a subject like sex that one cannot even inquire as to what it actually is to family members.
The only argument to prevent us from taking the above argument so far as to say "alright, then we should all walk around naked all day long and masturbate in public places" is 'common decency'. Even if you're not anal about sex, you might simple not care for watching ugly naked people all day long, and it'd be your full right. The problem is we take 'common decency' to extremes in the form of censorship, where we blame bad parenting and bad 'society-ing' as a whole on pointless unproven weak "exposing people to X makes them do X!!!" arguments.
So much for my philosophical jabbering though. I also recognize we can't expect Blizzard to revolutionize the world (it's not really their function) and I can understand *why* they do this. I just think that in the overall sense, it's a weak decision.
I think THIS is the funniest thing in that entire email.
They are in place to ensure every player is able to fully enjoy their time in SC2? Really? Has Blizzard seen the shit 95% of the people you meet on bnet say?
"NAGERS AND JEWS ARE WORSE THEN AIDS, AND THEY ALSO HAPPEN TO ALL HAVE AIDS"
^ I see shit like that every 5 seconds on battle.net..... god forbid a map uses the word Hooker lol
@zeldarules28: Go
90% of SC2 is online. 100% of WoW is online. Yet Blizzard still censor things :(. At least we can turn off the language filter -.-
I think that this happened:
Blizz employee plays Mafia and gets the stripper role. He's pissed that he can't kill people like a mafioso, so he files a report to get them removed from the game.
in germany sex is almost fine, but:
exposing you to humans bleeding caused by weapons makes you a killer in germany
it's always stupid and it will be a very long time
@PsypherLocke: Go
Lets just be glad he wasn't a citizen :D
Eh keep in mind that Blizzard didn't take the actions directly, but someone reported it, and they investigated it, and then took actions.
If someone reports it, it is their job to look at it further. And it is understandable why it got taken down no matter how bullshit it may seem to be.
Your map is still active on EU, so well.. meh, was it really a huge loss though? We already know the popularity system is flawed, and people who have bookmarked your map will still continue playing it.
@Bounty_98:
Report them and they will face their judgement. But since you or no one else bothers, it will still go on.
@Mozared: Go
.*applause*
Pretty much agree with everything Moz said... What I'd like to add is that Blizzard used some "bad words" in the campaign afaik (not exactly sure how many and which, but I'll bet [Son of a] "Bitch" was included, which I think is more "offensive" than hooker), so shouldn't we be able to use those as well?
I think that blizzard should allow some sort of "rating" for maps which mapmakers can use (The usual ratings, like blood, alcohol, violence, swears, nudity, etc.), the author enables the ratings that fit his map, if the ratings include something that would be "deemed inappropriate", a (disable-able) warning is shown before you join the lobby saying in all caps and font size 9001 "THIS MAP CONTAINS THE FOLLOWING: (ratings checked by author), you may not report the map for that content since we're telling you it's there and if you're offended by it just simply don't play the map"
Yeah, the real bullshit of this is that in the campaign, at least Spanish version, you have like "goddamn son of a bitch", "fuck this shit", "fucking bastards" and worse stuff in every cinematic. When I started playing it, I got shocked by the amount of free insults every dialogue line had, lol, I was like "do writers really need to write that many insults to make it "cool"?".
But outside the campaign, you can't call anyone "dumb", because you will get banned for racial discriminative religious terrorism.
Fucking hypocrites.
Also, I agree we should have an ESRB thing, that could work together with the language and mature filters, so we can hide our map or change some texts in case playerFilterOn==True or something like that.
So what if we use the model of the holographic stripper, and pull every bad word from the sound files. Make it into one huge offensive map with only things pulled from the editor.
What happens then.
@PSGMud: Go
Lets do it! LOL. stupid blizzard.
@PSGMud: Go
To what end? To piss off Blizzard? Sounds like a waste of time.
you use use the terms
Streetwalker and Peeler